wui39 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Sorry to hear about your losses guys. I lost 2 bn's not because of the heat but they jumped out of the tank. xdc you said your koi spawned??? very weird time of year for them to spawn and normally they spawn when the temp drops not increases, it may have been stress forcing them to release their eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR73 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 The best I can recommend to those that don't have well-insulated fishrooms and aircon, is the following: 1. Turn off your tank lighting 2. Take off the lids and cover the tank in some type of mesh or netting (to stop the fish jumping out) 3. Direct a fan onto the tanks water surface and, very importantly, direct the air onto where your spraybar is located or whatever creates the water flow. The fan directs cool air onto the water surface which is being circulated around the tank. This method has it's limitations but it can lower the tank a couple of degrees and most importantly, keeps the tank well oxygenated. Fish can generally handle the heat iteself, but they use more oxygen in coping with increased temperatures. Thus the reason we sometimes have losses is because a bubbler that usually suffices on a normal cool day can't provide enough O2 on a hot day. You may also think why blow hot 40 degree air onto a hot tank? It's the airflow onto an open surface in conjuction with water circulation that's important. Also bear in mind your room may cool by 2am at night but your tank with lids on won't. With lids off, fans and water circulation I assure you it'll lower the temp in the tank if the room cools. I live in Brisbane, in a 65 year old Queenslander house, and I've never lost fish during the hot days we get up here, using this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[RK] Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Lost all my 11 rasboras. damn those are weak weak fish. not hardy at all. Thankfully my rainbows, SAE's and BN made it through. Doing a waterchange now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6C1 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I have not lost anything. My tanks sat at a steady 30 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdc Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 wui - yeh that couldve been it....there were eggs but not like a proper session (~6wks ago) guess we'll find out in a few days edit: my (limited) understanding for koi was any sudden temp change up or down. the last one was induced by a water change on a warm-ish day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropheusQueen Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Sorry for people's losses We maintained the high twenty's in the fish room as in my previous post with no losses. We did however suffer a 2 hour blackout once the southerly hit just to further stress out our fish. Thank goodness for the UPS's connected to the 95% of our tanks that are powered by air. Isn't the cool air terrific today? Aline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemst Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 First summer in a new apartment on the top floor. I was out for brunch and by the time I got home yesterday I had 3 losses. Including my favourite - a Fronnie I have had for about 2 years (bought as fry) I also haven't seen my peppermint brislie for a couple of days..... I need to stock up on ice and hope like hell it isn't hot this summer when I am at work. Not exactly thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianos Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 It got to 45 outside but luckily my tanks only got up to 32. With lots of water circulation and a water change in the afternoon none of the inhabitants looked any worse for the wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontyKing Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I've got heaps of water circulation in all of my 15 tanks in the garage, and no heaters have been on in any tanks over the past 4-5 days, but with the extreme heat yesterday and the fact that the air conditioning guy couldn't make his appointment on the 22nd of December I've suffered the following losses:- 14 x 25-35cm 7 Bar Frontosas 19 x adult breeding A. comp Firefins(Kigoma) 25 x adult breeding black calvus 389 x 6 bar frontosa fry 467 x black calvus juvies 80+ x black calvus fry 131 x 7 bar frontosa fry 15 x bristlenose What survived was: 1 x 15cm 7 Bar frontosa female 6 x peppermint bristlenoses who spawned this morning!!!!!!!!! 30-40 x black calvus juvies. Although I did water changes throughout the day to try to keep the temps down, it wasn't enough to keep these guys alive as when I did a water change and got the tank temps down to 29 from 33, within one and a half hours the temps soared to 35+ on all the tanks and when I walked back into the fish rooom I noticed everyone was doing backstrokes. Happy New Year, I think not in my case,and hope that no one else had the same experience I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Hey Well my heart deffinately goes out to you frontyking that is a hell of alot of money to lose mate. Wow over 500 frontosa mate including big 7 bars. Well all i can say to people is have your tanks somewhere where the air con will get to them like mine. My tanks stayed at even 28 all week. No losses and more breeding Cheers Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wui39 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Thats a bad loss FontyKing. Hope it doesn't get you down too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Nick, that freakin' sux big time mate . I felt sick reading your post. I really hope you get some awesome luck real soon. I bet you feel like taking a baseball bat down to a certain air conditioning retailer . I hope you are cancelling your order with whoever it was that stitched you up by not keeping their appointment . Once again, so sorry (and angry), Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontyKing Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Thanks for your kind words guys and yes Jamie, I called the air con guy up today to cancel the appointment for tomorrow and why I'm cancelling, and in return he offered to install the air con for one third of the total price which comes to $450. Sure it won't bring my fish back, but it will help a bit on the pocket seeing as I suffered a huge blow. Wui, a friend of mine came over this morning to give me a hand with shutting down a few tanks, seeing as there are no fish in them now, and after seeing a tear or two running down my cheek he asked me, being in the seafood industry for 16 odd years, don't you get used to seeing dead fish? I told him his services were no longer needed for the day and he asks why? My answer was, alot of the adult fish I lost yesterday I have had for over 8 years so you can imagine how attached I was to them considering each and everyone of them I had given a name based on it's character. In saying that, yes it did get me down losing all these fish, but I feel even worse knowing that I did all I could at that time and there was nothing else I could do to prevent what had happened. Camo, I think if the air con came on the 22nd as it was supposed to, none of this would have taken place. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 I really hope something really good comes your way mate. I feel terrible for you and your fish . Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 That's horrible news Sounds like some of us should be considering ourselves lucky. I cannot imagine how it would feel to be wiped out that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wui39 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Wui, a friend of mine came over this morning to give me a hand with shutting down a few tanks, seeing as there are no fish in them now, and after seeing a tear or two running down my cheek he asked me, being in the seafood industry for 16 odd years, don't you get used to seeing dead fish? I told him his services were no longer needed for the day and he asks why? My answer was, alot of the adult fish I lost yesterday I have had for over 8 years so you can imagine how attached I was to them considering each and everyone of them I had given a name based on it's character. ← Sorry to say this mate but the conversation between would have sounded funny if you didn't know the circumstances. I can imagine his point of view would be that they are just things to sell and eat. Once again sorry about your loss, if I can be any help in the future let me know (although I'm moving away from cichlids atm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I don't know what to say FrontyKing It's odd that "down south" has temp related problems & up here doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemst Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Holy schwepps. That is heavy, serious loss. Ok..I may have lost a few but that is nothing compared to the massacre you experienced. I'm sure everyone who reads your story will feel a pang of shock and I'm sure a bucketload of sympathy. Even though all that won't even come close to making you feel much better. I hope you don't get too down about things and your new aircon keeps ticking for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoliroMan Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Sorry to hear of your substantial losses Nick! Remember the massive contribution u have made to the hobby by diligently keeping and breeding these frontosa and calvus! I am sure many who have brought fish from u know of the expertise and the love u put into your fish keeping with the exceptional juveniles u have sold to them. I know u are in it more for the luv of the fish than the money side of things! So don't dwell too long on the unfortunate losses but remember that u have the ability to start all over again and this time u will be prepared. Look on the bright side...u can start a colony of Zaire Blues or even import some Wildcaught Tropheus! It is a New Year...so forgot the past and plan for a new an exciting future! Ps..are the trophs ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Oh Nick..I too felt ill when I read your post I don't know what to say except that when it really comes down to it, they are just fish (not human loved ones). Andrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i am thankful i insulated my garage last year. got sick of disgustingly high winter heating costs and put a whole lot in. the benefit is about 8 degrees difference this summer. it used to be that the garage was hotter than outside, now it rarely gets up over 28 in my tanks. all i found with the heat was an increase in spawns due to the tanks going up about a degree or two. nick, i truly feel for your loss. hope you can come back from it. if nothing else, like dave said at least you can try your hand at something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontyKing Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thank you everyone for your support and kind words. Andrea, I know that they are 'just fish' and the attachment to them was not the same as a human attachment but as a pet attachment just like owning a dog or cat, which the loss of these adult fish was a similar feeling to when I lost my German Shepherd after 11 years- sad and upsetting and will take me a couple of days to get over as every morning at 2 am I venture out to that furnace of a garage to have my coffee while watching the fish swim around, and now all I see are bare tanks. Dave, yesterday I moved the moliros in there and they are doing just great. I acquired the whole lot of moliros from Emmanuel today and at least the tanks are starting to look a bit better with fish swimming around them. Love the T's! The air con man came around today to wire up the garage for the air con to go in tomorrow and apologized a million times for the loss I incurred and I am very grateful to him for that and the fact he's now not charging me for the supply and install of the unit! Gav, I was going to insulate the garage in June 05 but a decision came up to knock down the shack we live in and rebuild, so I thought an air con for now, although a bit late, would be a quick fix. Once again guys, thank you for your support, and to anyone out there who has lost even one fish due to this heat we've been having, trust me, I feel for you! Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hi Nick, I wasn't under valuing the loss of your fish...just putting it into perspective (compared to those who have lost everything in the fires for example). I feel for you, believe me. Andrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 G'day Nick I am so sad for your terrible loss. I understand how you feel, I remember the feeling when my old german shepherd died They are our pets and more important than some people I know. Keep ya chin up mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoliroMan Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i have also had 2 male German Shepherds that i had to put down due to hip problems. I still think about them even today! But i try to remember the good times we had together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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