CThompson Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Sorry the shot is a little unfocused - could not get a focused shot. Not sure why, I used auto and manual focus, all were flash shots so shutter speed was not the issue. Every shot i took was no good, but I chose the best of a bad lot to show you. I put two different lenses on the camera which didn't help, but took some auto shots of some non-underwater subjects directly after the blurred fish shots and they were fine. Very frustrating as I deleted some wonderfull colours. I'll put a shot of the female as well as she has such a loverly pink stomach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I picked mine up shortly after you left with yours Craig. They are looking fantastic, but no eggs for me yet... (Not that I would be able to save them in my display tank anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattzilla Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 looking good mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 I picked mine up shortly after you left with yours Craig. They are looking fantastic, but no eggs for me yet... (Not that I would be able to save them in my display tank anyway.) If I knew you were next I would have waited around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 looking good mate Any idea why I couldn't focus? I thought maybe the auto focus was getting stuck on the glass, so focused manually, but still no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GundamCichlid Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 beautiful pair any chance of full set up picture?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloany Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Congrats Craig. They are obviously very happy in their new home What water parameters do you have them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Hi Craig, Just out of curiousity - where did u get them from? They look great. I have not seen any like that (colour wise) around for a long time. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudotrop Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 looking good mate Any idea why I couldn't focus? I thought maybe the auto focus was getting stuck on the glass, so focused manually, but still no good. I have a fairly basic point'n'shoot camera and find the best way to take photos through glass is by putting the lens right up against the glass and then trying to focus on an object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 GundamCichlid Check out “The Magic Tank” in the Photography Forum on ACE Sloany I keep the tank just shy of neutral or at neutral, for the plants not fish. I thought they were still too small to breed Shane, but they not only laid eggs, they are still tending them – go figure! I’d much rather they kept it in their pants as now I will feel bad if the young hatch and starve, or go down the filter (BIG filter on this tank for its size) or if they are eaten by the rainbows… Ajk Sloany sourced them from QLD and parted with his excess. Pseudotrop When I come up to the tank, the rams come up to the front glass. If I took the camera to the glass as you suggest (though I will try), I’m going to need some sort of super macro lens as the fish will be the tank’s glass thickness away from the lens…and looking straight down the barrel My camera is a Nikon D50, a few years old now, but a good camera. I have taken many focused fish shots in the past, just not the rams and I don't understand why the shots I took didn't work. I saw they were no good as I previewed them as I took them, took a shot of some printing on a magazine and that was fine, went back to the fish - not fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 Sooo...what do I feed something as small as these? Green water? Or will they find stuff in/off the wood for a bit? Had the usual focus issue, but focus "bracked" a few shots and got this; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudotrop Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 When I come up to the tank, the rams come up to the front glass. If I took the camera to the glass as you suggest (though I will try), I’m going to need some sort of super macro lens as the fish will be the tank’s glass thickness away from the lens…and looking straight down the barrel My camera is a Nikon D50, a few years old now, but a good camera. I have taken many focused fish shots in the past, just not the rams and I don't understand why the shots I took didn't work. I saw they were no good as I previewed them as I took them, took a shot of some printing on a magazine and that was fine, went back to the fish - not fine. I'm no camera guru by any means, but what shutter speed is the camera set at? Maybe you need to increase this? As an image can be in focus but still come out blurry if the shutter speed is too slow (and the subject moves). You'd have to have a read of the manual - most cameras allow you to select an automatic or manual option. Other things that seem to help are being perpendicular to the glass (which could be hard on a hexagonal tank which is reflecting light in various directions off the glass) although I have seen other pics of the same tank about the forum which seem fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 When I come up to the tank, the rams come up to the front glass. If I took the camera to the glass as you suggest (though I will try), I'm going to need some sort of super macro lens as the fish will be the tank's glass thickness away from the lens…and looking straight down the barrel My camera is a Nikon D50, a few years old now, but a good camera. I have taken many focused fish shots in the past, just not the rams and I don't understand why the shots I took didn't work. I saw they were no good as I previewed them as I took them, took a shot of some printing on a magazine and that was fine, went back to the fish - not fine. I'm no camera guru by any means, but what shutter speed is the camera set at? Maybe you need to increase this? As an image can be in focus but still come out blurry if the shutter speed is too slow (and the subject moves). You'd have to have a read of the manual - most cameras allow you to select an automatic or manual option. Other things that seem to help are being perpendicular to the glass (which could be hard on a hexagonal tank which is reflecting light in various directions off the glass) although I have seen other pics of the same tank about the forum which seem fine. camera automatics when flash is used means that the shutter speed is fast enough to rule out it being blurred for this reason. The shape of the tank isn't it either as zooming the lens puts me at one panel, and two didn't make a difference either. If I only took on manual focus I'd say I'd best get those glasses I've been putting off, but it's also out of focus on auto focus, when shooting the fish. But when taking a photo of a magazine's printing, the auto focus was spot on. Other shots of tanks with this camera have been fine, it's just since I have tried to take photos of the rams. Thanks for your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Craig if you have green water then use it as I'm guessing they will be up swimming by tomorrow do you have an established sponge filter ? they are always good for small fry to feed off yes there should be micro organisms on the wood that they will pick at vinegar eels and micro worms are your other options egg yolk made into a slurry but in small quantities even liquifry Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Nice looking fish, I hope to get a few soon. The one I do have got munched by another fish, a few weeks back, but is recovering slowly in another tank ( 100L ) it shares with a Red Jewel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I used to feed baby apistos on Sera micron. I'd make a slurry with water and use a dropper pipette to deliver a cloud of food near the fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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