teflon Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Im looking at buying a new pump for my sump that will have a max head hight of 3mts + Whats a cheap/reliable brand? and where can i purchase it? Also could a powerhead be used?? Cheers Adam **EDIT** needed to add more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nannat Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 i wouldnt try a powerhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6C1 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Why not a powerhead if they are used to output that L/H? Is it before of the height pressure of the water on them or is there another reason? Cheers, Toufic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ageofaquariums Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hi Adam, We can supply you with a HQB-3900 submersible pump which is rated at 3500lph and a 4m max head. And at only $45.00 they are a steal. Here is a link, HQB-3900 Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I'm using a spare Sunsun 2000lph powerhead as a lift pump for my std 4' tank - it barely gets there. The 1400lph version just trickled out of the return hose with approx 1.3m head, the 2000lph PH might be getting 700lph at that height if it's lucky get a proper submersable pump like the one Ben posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Call me fussy But is there any others that have a lower power consumption then 100w as i dont want to be making up for a cheap pump in electricity bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ageofaquariums Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Call me fussy But is there any others that have a lower power consumption then 100w as i dont want to be making up for a cheap pump in electricity bills ← Hiya, How about this one, HJ2000 Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 How much volume do you need to turn over at your head height? Laguna pumps (the powerjet series) have a low power consumption for a fairly large volume. Ben are you still able to get hold of these pumps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 2x 4x20wx18h 1x standard 3 foot I think it would be about 2 metres high from the sump to the top tank. Thanks for the heads up BaZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkesg Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hey I have used cheaper pumps and more expensive ones - like the Laguna. It's worth spending a little more up front to get a better quality pump. My impeller on the cheaper pump broke within 6 mths. I got a laguna at the same time and it is still going strong, the flow rate has not diminished. When the cheap one broke I had no spare impeller for it nor a backup pump. I had to rush out to the LFS and buy another one - luckily they stocked Laguna. If I hadn't been home I could of also lost a lot of fish as they had no filtration. The cheap ones made in China WILL break it is just a matter of when, so if you do decide to get one order a backup impeller at the same time. HTH Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinky Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 the rio hyperflows have a low power consumption and a decent price, but i aint sure if it is suitable for sumps, perhaps someone who has used one for sumps can fill you in.....HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tykita Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 gday IMO its best off going for a good quality pump as parkessq said.for me it is peace of mind knowing you have something reliable.had a king 6 impeller break on me twice(haven't bothered to fix it yet)flooding my garage.yet my pond master just keeps going and doesn't lose pressure at all.spend a little extra and it will save you in the long run regards chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 How did a broken impeller manage to flood the garage? Sounds like your sump is too small Btw aren't both King and Pondmaster made at the same place? Just different branding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tykita Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 wouldn't have a clue if theyre made in the same place baz.but the ceramic pole that holds the impeller is what has snapped on me twice on the king 6.as for the sump they are running on matrix s the sump is full as it is. the inlet to the tanks hangs in the water by a couple of inches so it syphons out those inches onto the garage floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 You could drill a hole in the inlet, 2 inches from the end, so the hole sits just below the surface. This would break the syphon if the tanks began to drain, saving you from a mop job each time the power goes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tykita Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 i was going to do that baz but i'm changing the whole setup a better way.i was considering putting spray bars on the inlets just to even the flow thru the entire width of the tank. what do you think? regards chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trofius Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 tykita it will still syphon back until it can suck air, but spray bars are better i feel as for pumps i have a king 4 does agreat job, too well even, but they are dammm noisy even in a 10mm thick sump, covered in water, in an enclode cabinet aarrrrrhhhhh. i am looking for a qieter one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Sounds like a good plan Chris I run 2 sumps here and both can easily hold any water which drains from the tanks in the event of a pump failure or blackout. It's the best way to go for peace of mind while you are asleep or at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Max head of three meters! That is a lot! And you’re worrying about how much it will cost to run! The first thing you need to worry about is finding a pump that can move the required water to the height you want. How much turn over you want? You should aim for three to four times per hour. You then need to find a pump that can move that volume of water at THREE METERS of head! As others have said, you get what you pay for, and to get a good pump, you will have to pay. Three meters is a lot of head (have I said that?) . Then you have to make sure ALL your plumbing is sufficient for this pump. I don’t think you will have a great deal of choice, and your wattage will be what ever the above critical features match the pump. I would be looking at Oase pumps. They make a range of pumps for pond use, and some are designed to pump water for waterfalls and thus have good head. Some models come with an extendable (from a standard 3 years) 5 year warranty, but they are expensive. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomena Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 as for pumps i have a king 4 does agreat job, too well even, but they are dammm noisy even in a 10mm thick sump, covered in water, in an enclode cabinet aarrrrrhhhhh. i am looking for a qieter one! Can't agree more. I've been using PM4200 and Resun King 4. Both are noisy. But I personally think PM4200 is better quality. Lately my Resun's been playing up. Sometimes it shuts down for a second or two and starts again. I've been looking for a good reliably silent pump for about 5000 l/h @ 0 head. Have been considering Laguna Powerjet 5000 & 7000 and Ocean Runner 6500. Then I came across Oase. Their price tag isn't friendly at all. I almost bought the Laguna 7000 but I said to myself what the heck I'll try the Oase. Installed it on Saturday...hmmm i like it Dead silent, very smooth start, can't feel any vibration in the sump even the base of the pump doesn't have suction cups or any rubber base. BEAUTIFUL!!! I think it's comparable to Eheim pump but with bigger grunt. Oh yes, which other pump manufacturer gives a 5 year warranty including the impeller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trofius Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 so what is the going price on the oase pump to replace the king 4, it is reallly anoying as it is in the house, very interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tykita Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 you guys have me intrigued on this oase pump.where can you buy them and what output do they come in? regards chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAZ Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Majestic has em Chris WAZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomena Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Good going price online is $479 for the Neptune 5000. You can get it cheaper, just haggle like I did. Your local irrigation supply should have it. Or some garden/koi centre. Here's a few links: Oase Homepage Creative Pumps Dural Irrigation Leaf and Stone Also consider the classic range. They're more powerful... HTH, DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tykita Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 $479 for 5000 l/hr damn i hope they are made to last for that price.anyway thanks for the info waz and phenomena regards chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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