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There were a few at StGeorge in the backroom. I can't remember if they were for sale or not but it would be worth giving them a call to find out if you're interested. You could join the elite list of people trying to preserve the species in Sydney ie Brett, John and Mike. woot.gif

PS No idea on the locality LOL.gif

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Paul

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not sure that locality really matters on them to be honest. nobody knows what is here anyway, and everyone would only be guessing on locality. I think its somewhat irrelevant to be honest.

as for where Brett got his fish from, well that is something I wouldn't be sharing if I were him. They most likely just turned up on his doorstep one morning thumb.gif with some luck he will take some photos of his ones tonight.

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not sure that locality really matters on them to be honest. nobody knows what is here anyway, and everyone would only be guessing on locality. I think its somewhat irrelevant to be honest.

Well I think it does matter gav. I didnt think we had a locality on the one that came from Melbourne. But if Brett has a locality on his fish then I dont think it a good ideato mix the melbourne fish with the wild fish

the only reason I ask if they were from Rod's, is that Rod told me he had some at his shop and Iwas woundering if Bretts were from there. I was a bit sceptical that they wild caught, But they may have been. I mentioned it to a few people at the time and they shared my sceptisim.

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sorry Josh, didn't really make my comment clear. I was mainly saying that if we don't know a locality on any, which is the case as far as I know, there is no real point in anyone trying to guess it smile.gif

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Paul,

Id hardly call myself an elite fishkeeper. I'm merely an enthusiastic newby. Its not like pseudos are hard to keep. Theyre prolly one of the easist.

And i jst lost about 20 aurora fry from being a spaz and mediacting my fry tank, whixh prolly also made a few of the eggs my girls are holding infertile too. I'm really learning the hard way rolleyes.gif

I did manage to save the aeci tank with just one loss thpough. ahh fishkeeping has its ups n downs.

Anyways thanks for the parise Paul, but i hardly deserve it blush.gif

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From what I have read, although its very brief, the species only holds a small Southern Section in Lake Malawi, and then there is another population in one of the smaller lakes to the South (anyone remember the name? I don't have books at hand). The only discernable difference in the 2 populations was the size which they are found wild. However, in captivity both populations seem to have similar growth rates and maximum sizes? So I guess there is some logical explanation for size difference in the wild?

I don't deserve any credit. All I did was sit on my lazy backside bouncing emails around, made a few calls, made a netbank transfer, then went for a drive to the airport and had coffee in the city with my dad LOL.gif

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Cool gav. I also didnt know the location of the wild caught was not known.

in ad kongons book, back to nature guide to malawi cichlids, theres two locations crocodile rocks and otter point. But i know theres more location in the malawi cichlids in there natural habitate

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Hmmm seems i should read up better on them ohmy.gif Don't I look a bit silly laugh.gif My Ad Konings collection is being held up in customs zipit.gif I need to find an invoice/reciept for the purchase before they'll release them. If I knew it would be so much trouble I'd have bought them from Ben. Amazing that when I have bought big $$$ worth of CD's and DVD's from OS, they get left on my door in no time, no hassles. But a few books, apparently it is "Commercial Goods Awaiting Clearance"... Probably because the box was heavy dry.gif

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'Likoma' variant - these truely do look quite different to my ones

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...hl%3Den%26lr%3D

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN

"The surface of distribution of Maylandia livingstonii extends to almost all the lake, like in the lake Malombe, with the southern extrème of the lake Malawi. It is met mainly in the sandy habitat, near empty shells of Lanistes , mainly of the species nyassanus , in which it finds refuge and which it defends vigorously, like territory. One also meets it in the habitat intermédiare, but seldom in the rock habitat. If it does not have shell, it generally takes a rock for territory."

from:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...hl%3Den%26lr%3D

If you search fpr livingstoni (ctrl f) you can see the chipoka variant:

http://malawicarsten.dk/start/default.asp?...MalawiCichlider

Ctrl f search for 'ngara' - ngara variant:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN

Also

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN

I think they are generally all from the same area arent they?

WOW that was a lot of searching!

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but also theres the old name of metriaclima and before that maylandia. It alo says in one of the Ad Konging books that the metriaclima lanisticola could be a varient of the livingstonii aswell. Thats a whole lot of different fish in my books

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Hi Guys,

I was going to post photos to Gav but it will be tommoro nite now as Ive had one of those nights. Just went into fish room to my suprise a female was spawning.

So hopefully photos will be up tommoro.

Ok to answer the questions.

1. Mine are from Otter Point

2. I did originally get 10 from Rod just to get the species going again.(Said wildcaught don't know) I moved them out to a friend.

3. I didnt get any from Melbourne at all.

I recieved a phone call from a person 4 weeks later and was asked do I want some true wildcaught fish asked for location told and saw paperwork to confirm.

I do believe they are correct compared to others out there alot more vivid in color.

I have 8 in my colony will give breakup ratio tommoro also.

Im just glad to help bred a fish that has nearly been lost to the hobby.

HTH

Brett

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now I just wonder what paul wrote to have been deleted. I am guessing it wasnt praising anyone.... shame I missed it though. I am sure i would have agreed with im LOL.gif

brett, no worries, will post em tomorrow night, just send em over smile.gif

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Lokoma island is on the middle eastern side, ngara is about 3/4 of the way up on the western side. Crocodile rocks is right down the bottom of the lake and otter point iswis about 100km north of it. but they are all in the same lake smile.gif

Josh

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My aurora are likoma. Is the other aurora variant in OZ fom mara rocks?

Mozambique variant:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...hl%3Den%26lr%3D

not much of a difference really

Likoma varant from the same web site:

http://www.cichlidlovers.com/p_aurora_likoma.htm

Pseudotropheus aurora

Picture shows: Male - Tumbi Pt. VERY NICE FISH!

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN

stronger barring than likoma but likoma have brighter colours

Mara point:

http://malawicichlids.com/mw09005a.htm

very similar to likoma

Here are mine:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~mwertheim/mypic12.JPG

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WOW 4 pages about a fish that I have kept for about 18 months without anyone showing any interest in them huh.gifsadsmiley02.gif (in Perth anyway).

so these guys are not around in quantity? what price do they go for?

Kim I let a bag of 6 go for $10.00 at the last auction...weren't you listening (or were you getting exited about the monos that were coming up later tongue.gif )

merjo LOL.gif

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Hi Mike

Thanks for the reply re-aurora

I have the same one I think its the more common of the two I know of another 4 breeders with the same one "Gee theres going to be a glutt of supply in the next month or two"

I have also been searching around in retail land and found that auburn are retailing them for $29.95

Thanks for the info

anyway

cheers

craig

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thats a nice price for a 6cm aurora. Theyre not the most common of fish. The males start looking really fantastic at 11-13cm and i only like looking at barrel shape ones that have develloed 100 %. Ive got a thiner sub dominate male about 12 cm that was brought up in an aqaurium and it doesnt look anythin as good as my 2 large dominant males that have always eaten heaps and heaps. I feel kinda sorry for him because he never colours up at all these days. This isnt an add but if anyone wants him PM me. Hes bred before and used to be dominant when he was by himself with his girls.

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