Juvv Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Hey, i got this Juvenile cichlid and not sure what it is at all, wondering if anyone could take a look at it and maybe tell me some specs , or give me some links to a page with specs of the fish? Cheers!heres the linkhttp://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~jacob/fish.jpgthanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 it's most likely a red top zebranot the red top black bar zebra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvv Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 oh ok aymenz, thanks alot! when i bought him i was told it was something else i think , they had soem weird name for it, they had like 6 names in whiteout on teh tank and he was trying to pickout which name it was, and it was $30!i got it for $15 cause i knew the guy in the shop lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Juvv -The fish looks like "Pseudotropheus" greshakei.But I am concerned about the shape of the fish... seems a bit Aulonocara/Protomelas ish and my concern is regarding hybrids. However, this could just be the angle of the photo - would it be possible to take a few more and post them up?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita_ozfish Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I would have to agree with YeW - it definitely has some peacock in it. No Protomelas though in my books. I don't even think it looks like a mbuna - more pics please Definitely a male if it has had normal food - maybe you could wait until it colours up a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 It looks similar to my Red top Black bars when they are young and before they bar up. There's a hint of blue bar across the nose, and the egg spots indicate a male I think.However, the top fin and the shape in general look all wrong to me, and I agree that aulonocara is a strong possiblilty.How big is it now? Please post more pics.If you know the guy at the shop, why not ask him what it is supposed to be? That will give us a bit more to go on too.For $30 normal retail it would want to be something a bit more special than a RTBB! : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Hi JuvvWhich shop did you buy it from?Reg'sSam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Sam -I'd rather he didn't name names on the forum :D. It could put us in the hot seat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurea23 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Anita/ YewThe fish in question is pseudotropheus greahski. Shape looks right... they are abit more pointed in the head as compared to other metriclima zebra variants ...There is defintely no other peacock or protemelias in it.... The only concern qwould be if his parents were true greshaki or redtop black bar x gresahki... but he is a pure zebra....Mikeaurea@optushome.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Cheers Mike .A few extra photos still can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurea23 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Love photos ... very true...hopefully he should be a blue fish no bars red fins...If it is make and goes blue with faint bars he may have RTBB in him which will be bad...Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I gotta go with Mike on this one.The fish in question looks just like my M.greshakei did when they were small.They are somtimes sold as Red Top Zebra, Red Top Mbenji and M.greshakei(may be more I don't know) but the name is M.greshakei. But bloody expensive price, IMO, for a greshakeiAs Stated the male, if he is pure greshakei, will be pale blue with no barring when in full-display(they go so pale they almost appear white when really displaying).HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Hmmm......I didn't think greshakei had that dark spot on edge of gill - close to the eyes, could be my inexperience talking though. I dont think it is x'd with a peacock as i think some mbuna such as M.Exasporus have a similar body shape to the fish in the photo. So if it is a X species i'd say it could be a pseudotropheus x Melanochromus. Just my input.Melanochromus Exasporus: (Both pics)http://www.gemi.at/georg/fish/Melanochromi...njohnsonae1.jpghttp://users.pandora.be/cichlidae/Malawi_g...anjohnsonae.jpgAnthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Hi, Sure looks like Ps. greshakei but I'm with YeW and Anita. The shape isn't quite right . I looks like it has Protomelas or Aulonocara in the mix. Maybe more photos would help ID.merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvv Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 Thanks for all your input fellas. I have seen a larger size of this fish when i bought mine, looked basically the same just larger (5cm's) which isnt that large here is 2 more pics ive taken.http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~jacob/fish2.jpghttp://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~jacob/fish3.jpg I have 2 lombardi's in the tank and they have the same features so its gotta be some sort of zebra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sli_1504 Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Hi JuvvPersonally I don't think he is a 'zebra'. I have a few RTBB zebs at home and although the bands across his/her nose look similar, the shape is a bit different....HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvv Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 whats RTBB? lol im a cichlid noob i knwo when this fish gets angry his stripes REALLY come out like almost black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 YeW - No probs, things have changed a little since I was around last. :^: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Red Top Black Bar (RTBB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvv Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 its top fin is orange though (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBAR Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 does look kinda like a greshakei which would explain how his bars turn black when angry but the shape isnt right has something else in it maybe an aulonocara or even electric blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Perhaps some afra in the mix - has the growly face and short body???merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Are we certain its a hybrid???? can someone post a pic of a RTBB Juvie so we can comfirm if it is one???? Is it possable that it is a species that hasnt been in circulation for a while??? or a species that is new or not herd of in our country???Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 it seems to me a red top zebar.... sorry i don't know the scientific name.....all i know is that it's from the pseudotropheus family.... like the black bar red top zebra......c ya.:^: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvv Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 ok so we have come to the conclusion its a RTBB or a red top zebra? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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