tanoz Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Was wondering if anyone could help me.Recently a t.duboisi just died and now my saulosi is dying. they are only 4cm in length and my water paramters are as they should be, ie ammonia and nitrite are 0 and nitrate <5ppmThey only recent change is that i cleaned the gravel using that sucking tool everyone uses. Any help?further info that may help is that they are in a 220L tank with an ehiem 2215 and a aquaone 550 advance. Sr1200 air pump and 300watt heater set at 26degrees. Tank fish are 7 duboisi left and 2 saulosi left and about 5 lfn which are breeding.thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 What symptoms did they display before they died? Do you use dechlorinator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Did you check the water parameters before or after the gravel vac? Im no expert by any means, but if you checked before the gravel vac, maybe you sucked up or somehow killed the bacteria that is in the gravel, which may have then caused an ammonia spike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 This might be cause by different parasites that involves water change....Most likely an Amonia spike as suggested earlier...Best of luck with the rest mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithoMan Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 HIDid you do a filter clean ? while doing your water changethis is a very easy comon mistake people do. Kills all the good bacteria and causes issues in tankcheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanoz Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 thanks for all the replies. their symptoms are just that they eat alot less and just stay in one spot above the ground. eventually they get lower and lower and just lay on the ground breathing then die. I checked the parameters after the first fish died and nope i havent cleaned the filters yet. Was intending to change them when i upgrade by tank and it needs to be cycled. Im so confused as to why this is happening =Sonce again thanks for trying to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 At this stage I'd suspect bloat. Did they look a darker colour than normal? Did you see any white stringy poo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanoz Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 i was thinking bloat however no their poo is normal =s red because i feed them colour bits and occassionaly green when i feed them flakes for a few days. what other symptoms are their for bloat or perhaps u know a nice link on the forum that would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Its not bloat. My guess is that they where poisoned by poor water conditions. When you changed the water these condition were masked and didn't show on the testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcDoyle Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 This might be a silly question, but worth asking, when filling up the tank you didnt add any water that was heated through a tap or boiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firthy13 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 i had a similar problem a few years ago. i had been washing the car before i did a water change and gravel vac. when I finished with the car i just wiped my hand on my shirt and started playing in the fish water. the soap residue on my hands poisoned the whole tank. so maybe you used a sponge to clean algae off the glass that was used for cleaning something else by accident. its not bloat, it definitely sounds like a type of poisoning. and marcdoyle has a good question. could also be copper poisoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanoz Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 sorry for the delayys. ill try and reply best i canno i dont add heated water. i live around eastern beaches in sydney and at this time of year its more than warm enough to be added safely. even during winter really it wouldnt be could enough to need me to goto the lengths of heating it :Las for the poisoning issue. i dnt drive or do anything as such with chemicals. im a uni student so lifes busy enough anyway. i was thinking if its poisoning perhaps from the hose i use? that would be my suspect although its suppose to be a lead free one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldog Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 This might be a silly question, but worth asking, when filling up the tank you didnt add any water that was heated through a tap or boiled.Can you explain why you asked these questions please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 using the hot water tap you can add leached copper from the pipes that will have settled in thehot water system and direct from the copper pipes where cold water vitually doesn'ti think a dose of Metro is the go but I would have run a high volume pump or filter throughcarbon first then remove the carbon and add the medicationrunning through the carbon at least over night would help drag heavy metals or toxins outif that was part of the problemthrow away any use carbon as once overloaded it can release what it has absorbedChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E4G13M4N Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Colour bits is not a good food for either of those species as well, stick to the greens only for dubousi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanoz Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 thanks link2hell and eggieman. i was suspecting the colour bits and thats why i fed them flakes as well but it probably still got to them.as for the carbon all the fish died =\ so i simply stocked the tank with a good old hardy fish, pink convicts :L nothing seems to get to them thanks for the help from everyone. ill remember this nxt time i get some more duboisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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