Donnixd Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I tried to order one but they say it's no longer available in Melbourne, is this true? I haven't seen on at a LFS in ages.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 The carpinte is still very much available, however, it is the true Texas, cyanoguttatum which sadly seems lost from the hobby. Most shops in Sydney seem to regularly have carpinte on offer. Not sure about down your way though... HTH, Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnixd Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 The carpinte is still very much available, however, it is the true Texas, cyanoguttatum which sadly seems lost from the hobby. Most shops in Sydney seem to regularly have carpinte on offer. Not sure about down your way though... HTH, Andrew. oh ok, Im sick on living in Melbourne as an Aquarist, with it's ridiculous prices and limitations on fishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbad0417 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 what type of texas ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnixd Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 well the Herichthys cyanoguttatus is no more, so Hericthys carpintis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Correct. I keep hoping that someone proves me wrong and breeds real cyanoguttatum - these are incredibly beautiful and much less aggressive than carpinte. Don't quite know what happened to them - they used to be available all the time. For those not familiar with real Texas Cichlids, those that you see around the shops called "Red Texas" or "This Texas" or "That Texas" (lol) are not Texas Cichlids - rather, they are Hybrids. The two species commonly referred to as Texas are Herichthys cyanoguttatus and Herichthys carpinte. You can be certain that if you are getting a fish labelled Texas Cichlid, you are buying a carpinte - or sadly in many cases - a hybrid. Cheers, Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 It's a shame to read this. I vaguely recall someone having what certainly looked to be a pair of genuine Texas (cyanoguttatum) shortly before I bailed on the hobby. There are definitely plenty of carpinte still getting around Sydney stores though. I have seen more than a few recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 You can tell them apart from the size of their spots, cyanoguttatum has miniscule spots when compared to those on carpinte. Yes, Ducksta, you and I have been around for a while - how much have you seen come and go from the hobby??!!! Things we assumed would always be around have gone altogether! Although, we haven't been around as long as some - I imagine... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnixd Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 mind i ask, when you say long, how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I've had this disease for about 21 years now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GundamCichlid Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 awesome disease !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Ah Andrew your still just a youngen hmmmm near 40 yrs with me It would seem that Herichthys cyanoguttatus may have passed from the hobby and the last place I say one was at St George, maybe why you have memories of them Andrew Herichthys carpinte is the established species in the hobby but ............... on the noxious list in Victoria if memory is correct Unlucky for our Mexican friend and why he can't find them in shops there, even so I think a few have made it across the border Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Quite right, Chris! I have always wondered why cyanoguttatum never quite made it - at a glance it was a wondrous animal - and we never had a customer say their cyano had bashed all their fish (unlike carpinte). I feel honoured to have worked at St George as long as I did and of course, honoured to have known those who have been cichlidising as long as you have...lol Indeed I'll never catch up to you - when I've been at it for 40 + years, you'll be up to 60 +...hehe Why noxious in Vic? Some things still amaze me... It's not like they have warm water there (or warm anything!). Cheers, Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topogigio Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 i think you have the noxious species mixed up - it is the H. cyanoguttatum which is noxious in Victoria (i read somewhere this is because some were found to have taken hold in a pond many, many years ago) Now back to the carpinte not being available in Melbourne, they are around, and they are NOT noxious. i know that my lfs had a whole tank full of them for months without selling many. The confusion lies in the fact that many LFS wrongly identify the carpinte as the cyanoguttatum because they share a common name - texas cichlid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Well spotted Topogigio nomenclature working for the hobbiest see the list from VIC fisheries Leleupi are still on it, hmmmmmmm I had though they had upgraded and rectified this but ....... no List of Declared Noxious Aquatic Species in Victoria as Declared under the FIsheries Act 1995 (last ammendment 28/12/2000, current as at 26/3/2003) Scientific Names Common Name Acestorhynchus microlepis Pike Salmon (Hervey, Hems) Alfaro amazonus Amazon Livebearer Alfaro cultratus Knifetail Livebearer Anabas ansorgi Poss. syn. Ctenopoma ansorgi Anabas oxyrhynchus Poss. syn. Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus Apeites quadracus Four spined stickleback Asterias amurensis Northern Pacific seastar Callichrous bimaculatus - Channa fasciata Snakehead Cherax quadricarinatus Red claw crayfish Cherax tenuimanus Marron Chrosomus erythrogaster Red-bellied Dace Cichlasoma tetracanthus Cuban Cichild Cichlasoma urophthalmus - Clarias batrachus Walking catfish Clarias Lazera Clara Colossoma nigripinnis - Congera sallei Black-stripped mussel Creatochanes affinis - Creatochanes melanurus surinamensis - Crenicichla dorsocellata - Crenicichla lepidota Pike Cichlid Crenicichla notophthalmus - Crenicichla saxatilis Ring-tailed Pike Cichlid Ctenopharyneodon idellus Grass Carp Ctenopoma ansorgi - Ctenopoma argentoventer Silver-bellied Climbing Perch Ctenopoma congieum - Ctenopoma fasciolatus Striped Climbing Perch Ctenopoma nanum Dwarf Climbing Perch Ctenopoma ocellata - Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus - Cyprinus carpio (Linnaeus) Common Carp Dianema longibarbus - Dorichthys fluviatilis - Elassoma evergladei Pigmy Sunfish Elassoma zonata - Eleotris lebretonis - Enneacanthus gloriosus - Esox lucius Pike Eucalia inconstans Brook Stickleback Eutropius nilotious - Fundulus chrysotus Golden-ear Gambusia affinis holbrooki Common Gambusia. Mosquito fish Gambusia affinis holbrooki Black Gambusia Gambusia domincensis San Domingo Gambusia Gambusia manni Nassau Gambusia Gambusia nicaraguensis Nicaraguan Gambusia Gambusia patruelis Silver Gambusia Gambusia punctata Blue or Spotted Gambusia Gasterosteus aculeatus Three-spined Stickleback Hemichromis fasciatus Banded Jewel Herichthys cyanoguttatus Texas Cichlid fish Heteropneustes fossils - Hollandichthys multifasciatus - Hydrocynus goliath African Tiger Fish Hydrocynus maculatus - Irvineia voltoe - Knodus savannensis - Lamprologus leleupi - Lates nilotica Nile Perch Lebiasina bimaculata - Lepomis auritus - Lepomis gibbosus - Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill Lepomis megalotis - Leptolebias aureoguttatus - Leptolebias marmoratus - Leptolebias minimus - Leptolebias opalescens - Leptolebias splendens - Malapterurus electricus Electric Catfish Micropterus dolomieu Small-mouthed Bass Micropterus punctulatus Spotted Bass Micropterus salmoides Large-mouthed Bass Misgurnus anguillicaudatus Weather loach Ompok bimaculatus - Ophiocephalus obscurus - Ophiocephalus senegalensis - Osteoglossum bicirrhosum South American Arowana Oxyeieotris marmorata - Parauchenoglanis macrostoma - Phago maculatus Pike Characin (Sterba) Pimelodus clarias - Polypterus enlicheri - Polypterus retropinnis - Pomoxis spp. Crappie Protopterus annectens - Pseudoziphophorus bimaculatus - Pungasinodon gigas Mekong River Giant Catfish Pungitius pungitius Nine-spined Stickleback Puntius setevimensis Algerian Barb Schilbe mystus - Sabella spallanzanii Sabella worm (European fan worm) Serrasalmus spp. Piranhas Serrasalmus nattereri Piranha Serrasalmus rhombous Spotted Piranha Sorubim lima Spatula Loach Spartina anglica Rice grass Spartina xtasmanica Rice grass Tilapia busumana - Tilapia dolloi Congo Mouthbreeder Tilapia heudeloti Senegal Mouthbreeder Tilapia mactocephala Black-chinned Mouthbreeder Tilapia melanopleura - Tilapia mossambica Mozambique Mouthbreeder Tilapia natalensis Natal Mouthbreeder Tilapia nilotica Nile Mouthbreeder Tilapia ovalis - Tilapia sparrmanni Sparrman's Mouthbreeder Tilapia zilli Zill's Mouthbreeder Tomerurus gracilis - Trichomycteridae family Parasitic catfishes Undaria pinnatifida Wakame (Japanese) seaweed Valencia hispanica Spanish Fundulus Xiphophorus pygameus - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Yes, because we all know how much danger our wild Barramundi population will be in if leleupi gets out...ROFLMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Just picturing the old mouse and eagle cartoon of the last gesture of defiance with a Leleupi and a Barra as the Leleupi holds up one fin while looking down the Barra's throat Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Edwards Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Just picturing the old mouse and eagle cartoon of the last gesture of defiance with a Leleupi and a Barra as the Leleupi holds up one fin while looking down the Barra's throat Chris When did they put leleupi on there ??? I remember getting them from Eric Goltz for $100ea back in the late eithies I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiem Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Been there as long as I can remember but my memory cant go back as long as Chris lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_J Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 i'll have to look into something tomorrow... a mate of mine offeredme a Texas , the otherday... he said he wanted a 3ft tank and wanted to know if i'd swap... he called it a Rio Texas... this could be very interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_J Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 i'll have to look into something tomorrow... a mate of mine offeredme a Texas , the otherday... he said he wanted a 3ft tank and wanted to know if i'd swap... he called it a Rio Texas... this could be very interesting.... damn it , he sold it yesterday afternoon... the LFS paid him $80for it when he seen it.......say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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