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The carpinte is still very much available, however, it is the true Texas, cyanoguttatum which sadly seems lost from the hobby.

Most shops in Sydney seem to regularly have carpinte on offer. Not sure about down your way though...

HTH,

Andrew.

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The carpinte is still very much available, however, it is the true Texas, cyanoguttatum which sadly seems lost from the hobby.

Most shops in Sydney seem to regularly have carpinte on offer. Not sure about down your way though...

HTH,

Andrew.

oh ok,

Im sick on living in Melbourne as an Aquarist, with it's ridiculous prices and limitations on fishes.

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Correct. I keep hoping that someone proves me wrong and breeds real cyanoguttatum - these are incredibly beautiful and much less aggressive than carpinte. Don't quite know what happened to them - they used to be available all the time.

For those not familiar with real Texas Cichlids, those that you see around the shops called "Red Texas" or "This Texas" or "That Texas" (lol) are not Texas Cichlids - rather, they are Hybrids. The two species commonly referred to as Texas are Herichthys cyanoguttatus and Herichthys carpinte.

You can be certain that if you are getting a fish labelled Texas Cichlid, you are buying a carpinte - or sadly in many cases - a hybrid.

Cheers,

Andrew.

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It's a shame to read this.

I vaguely recall someone having what certainly looked to be a pair of genuine Texas (cyanoguttatum) shortly before I bailed on the hobby.

There are definitely plenty of carpinte still getting around Sydney stores though. I have seen more than a few recently.

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You can tell them apart from the size of their spots, cyanoguttatum has miniscule spots when compared to those on carpinte.

Yes, Ducksta, you and I have been around for a while - how much have you seen come and go from the hobby??!!! Things we assumed would always be around have gone altogether!

Although, we haven't been around as long as some - I imagine... lol

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Ah Andrew your still just a youngen :lol3: hmmmm near 40 yrs with me :blink

It would seem that Herichthys cyanoguttatus may have passed from the hobby

and the last place I say one was at St George, maybe why you have memories

of them Andrew

Herichthys carpinte is the established species in the hobby but ............... on the

noxious list in Victoria if memory is correct

Unlucky for our Mexican friend and why he can't find them in shops there, even

so I think a few have made it across the border :roll

Chris

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Quite right, Chris! I have always wondered why cyanoguttatum never quite made it - at a glance it was a wondrous animal - and we never had a customer say their cyano had bashed all their fish (unlike carpinte). I feel honoured to have worked at St George as long as I did and of course, honoured to have known those who have been cichlidising as long as you have...lol Indeed I'll never catch up to you - when I've been at it for 40 + years, you'll be up to 60 +...hehe

Why noxious in Vic? Some things still amaze me... It's not like they have warm water there (or warm anything!).

Cheers,

Andrew.

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i think you have the noxious species mixed up - it is the H. cyanoguttatum which is noxious in Victoria (i read somewhere this is because some were found to have taken hold in a pond many, many years ago)

Now back to the carpinte not being available in Melbourne, they are around, and they are NOT noxious. i know that my lfs had a whole tank full of them for months without selling many.

The confusion lies in the fact that many LFS wrongly identify the carpinte as the cyanoguttatum because they share a common name - texas cichlid.

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Well spotted Topogigio :thumb

nomenclature working for the hobbiest :lol2:

see the list from VIC fisheries

Leleupi are still on it, hmmmmmmm I had though they had

upgraded and rectified this but ....... no

List of Declared Noxious Aquatic Species in Victoria

as Declared under the FIsheries Act 1995

(last ammendment 28/12/2000, current as at 26/3/2003)

Scientific Names Common Name

Acestorhynchus microlepis Pike Salmon (Hervey, Hems)

Alfaro amazonus Amazon Livebearer

Alfaro cultratus Knifetail Livebearer

Anabas ansorgi Poss. syn. Ctenopoma ansorgi

Anabas oxyrhynchus Poss. syn. Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus

Apeites quadracus Four spined stickleback

Asterias amurensis Northern Pacific seastar

Callichrous bimaculatus -

Channa fasciata Snakehead

Cherax quadricarinatus Red claw crayfish

Cherax tenuimanus Marron

Chrosomus erythrogaster Red-bellied Dace

Cichlasoma tetracanthus Cuban Cichild

Cichlasoma urophthalmus -

Clarias batrachus Walking catfish

Clarias Lazera Clara

Colossoma nigripinnis -

Congera sallei Black-stripped mussel

Creatochanes affinis -

Creatochanes melanurus surinamensis -

Crenicichla dorsocellata -

Crenicichla lepidota Pike Cichlid

Crenicichla notophthalmus -

Crenicichla saxatilis Ring-tailed Pike Cichlid

Ctenopharyneodon idellus Grass Carp

Ctenopoma ansorgi -

Ctenopoma argentoventer Silver-bellied Climbing Perch

Ctenopoma congieum -

Ctenopoma fasciolatus Striped Climbing Perch

Ctenopoma nanum Dwarf Climbing Perch

Ctenopoma ocellata -

Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus -

Cyprinus carpio (Linnaeus) Common Carp

Dianema longibarbus -

Dorichthys fluviatilis -

Elassoma evergladei Pigmy Sunfish

Elassoma zonata -

Eleotris lebretonis -

Enneacanthus gloriosus -

Esox lucius Pike

Eucalia inconstans Brook Stickleback

Eutropius nilotious -

Fundulus chrysotus Golden-ear

Gambusia affinis holbrooki Common Gambusia. Mosquito fish

Gambusia affinis holbrooki Black Gambusia

Gambusia domincensis San Domingo Gambusia

Gambusia manni Nassau Gambusia

Gambusia nicaraguensis Nicaraguan Gambusia

Gambusia patruelis Silver Gambusia

Gambusia punctata Blue or Spotted Gambusia

Gasterosteus aculeatus Three-spined Stickleback

Hemichromis fasciatus Banded Jewel

Herichthys cyanoguttatus Texas Cichlid fish

Heteropneustes fossils -

Hollandichthys multifasciatus -

Hydrocynus goliath African Tiger Fish

Hydrocynus maculatus -

Irvineia voltoe -

Knodus savannensis -

Lamprologus leleupi -

Lates nilotica Nile Perch

Lebiasina bimaculata -

Lepomis auritus -

Lepomis gibbosus -

Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill

Lepomis megalotis -

Leptolebias aureoguttatus -

Leptolebias marmoratus -

Leptolebias minimus -

Leptolebias opalescens -

Leptolebias splendens -

Malapterurus electricus Electric Catfish

Micropterus dolomieu Small-mouthed Bass

Micropterus punctulatus Spotted Bass

Micropterus salmoides Large-mouthed Bass

Misgurnus anguillicaudatus Weather loach

Ompok bimaculatus -

Ophiocephalus obscurus -

Ophiocephalus senegalensis -

Osteoglossum bicirrhosum South American Arowana

Oxyeieotris marmorata -

Parauchenoglanis macrostoma -

Phago maculatus Pike Characin (Sterba)

Pimelodus clarias -

Polypterus enlicheri -

Polypterus retropinnis -

Pomoxis spp. Crappie

Protopterus annectens -

Pseudoziphophorus bimaculatus -

Pungasinodon gigas Mekong River Giant Catfish

Pungitius pungitius Nine-spined Stickleback

Puntius setevimensis Algerian Barb

Schilbe mystus -

Sabella spallanzanii Sabella worm (European fan worm)

Serrasalmus spp. Piranhas

Serrasalmus nattereri Piranha

Serrasalmus rhombous Spotted Piranha

Sorubim lima Spatula Loach

Spartina anglica Rice grass

Spartina xtasmanica Rice grass

Tilapia busumana -

Tilapia dolloi Congo Mouthbreeder

Tilapia heudeloti Senegal Mouthbreeder

Tilapia mactocephala Black-chinned Mouthbreeder

Tilapia melanopleura -

Tilapia mossambica Mozambique Mouthbreeder

Tilapia natalensis Natal Mouthbreeder

Tilapia nilotica Nile Mouthbreeder

Tilapia ovalis -

Tilapia sparrmanni Sparrman's Mouthbreeder

Tilapia zilli Zill's Mouthbreeder

Tomerurus gracilis -

Trichomycteridae family Parasitic catfishes

Undaria pinnatifida Wakame (Japanese) seaweed

Valencia hispanica Spanish Fundulus

Xiphophorus pygameus -

Chris

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Yes, because we all know how much danger our wild Barramundi population will be in if leleupi gets out...ROFLMAO

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Just picturing the old mouse and eagle cartoon of the last gesture of defiance

with a Leleupi and a Barra as the Leleupi holds up one fin while looking down

the Barra's throat :lol3:

Chris

When did they put leleupi on there ???

I remember getting them from Eric Goltz for $100ea back in the late eithies I think.

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i'll have to look into something tomorrow...

a mate of mine offeredme a Texas , the otherday... he said he wanted a 3ft tank and wanted to know if i'd swap... he called it a Rio Texas... this could be very interesting....

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i'll have to look into something tomorrow...

a mate of mine offeredme a Texas , the otherday... he said he wanted a 3ft tank and wanted to know if i'd swap... he called it a Rio Texas... this could be very interesting....

damn it , he sold it yesterday afternoon... the LFS paid him $80for it when he seen it.......say no more.

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