619 Fish GOD Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi All Last night my Female Firemouth and Male Krib where acting strange.The male was gulping at the surface and the female was brightly coloured and VERY defensive. By the morning both where Dead.Anyone no way? Thanks Zackary Drury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 what other fish in the tank? what filtration? water perameters? Actually, just fill out this --> illness diagnosis template It will help people to help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
619 Fish GOD Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 1. Description of the symptoms, obvious signs of disease and behaviour of your fish. NONE except heavy Breathing 2. List the fish that are exhibiting the above symptoms/behaviour: genus and species name. Lionheads 3. When and how did the symptons/behaviour start?Thursday Night 4. How old are the affected/sick fish? Unknown 5. Have any new fish been added to the tank? NO 6. Has anything 'special' happened recently? Water Change 7. What are the water parameters? (where relevant) - pH =6.4 - kH = - f = - Temp = - O2 content = - CO2 additions = - NH3 = - NO2 = - NO3 = - Metals (copper, iron, lead) = 8. Describe the aquarium and its contents- Community tank with dwarf cichlids (Slight overstocked) 9. When was the water last changed and how much was changed?On the day 10. When was the filter last cleaned? 1 1/2 months ago 11. What brand and type of food has been used over the past month? Flake,prawn and or frozen food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 You are using dechlorinator I assume? I'd try another water change & maybe double-dose with prime(if you have it) & get that water perameters checked out ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
619 Fish GOD Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 I just lost another yellow Krib So I should do another water Change(I have not done one yet since yesterday)? Yes i use decholinated tapwater. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Hi Zach, You haven't given enough information for people to help you. Without know ammonia and nitrite readings you are feeling around in the dark. Go get them tested at an LFS if you don't have your own kits. They are the first things that you need to check. Andrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Perhaps the fish just became over-punctuated like the title of this thread?????????????????????? I agree with merjo. Test the water and you'll know more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
619 Fish GOD Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 Sorry I forget nirite which is at 20-40ppm before I did a water change. My Female Krib and 2 lionheads are now in the Corner breathing heavily so should I put in another airstone because the only air entering the water at the moment is from the spray bar? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeyBoyR Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I would think it is better to over-punctuate rather than be obnoxious and point out minor 'irritations' that otherwise have no impact on the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I would think it is better to over-punctuate rather than be obnoxious and point out minor 'irritations' that otherwise have no impact on the thread ← Blake it was a bit of fun I also added something of value (the part which I was going to add before I decided to have some fun as well). I'm looking, and looking real hard, yet I cannot find anything relevent to the thread in your post. Please try harder not to be obnoxious and point out minor 'irritations' that otherwise have no impact on the thread Now back to the real topic at hand please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeyBoyR Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Hug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Sorry I forget nirite which is at 20-40ppm before I did a water change. My Female Krib and 2 lionheads are now in the Corner breathing heavily so should I put in another airstone because the only air entering the water at the moment is from the spray bar? Thanks ← Nitrate's not good, but my understanding is it is not as toxic as something like ammonia. Perhaps someone can correct me if I am wrong? Have you had the water tested properly yet 619? Also, what did you dechlorinate your water with when you did the water change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fins Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Sorry I forget nirite which is at 20-40ppm before I did a water change. ← Well 619, now you know what's killing your fish. Seems like your tank is going through cycling. If at all possible, I would move the fish into another established tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Hi - 619 you may have disturbed your biofilter (or as Ed says the tank is incompletely cycled!). Nitrite should be 0 (*or do you mean nitrAte?*) I agree with Merj & others - get an ammonia & nitrIte kit (if you dont already have them and let us know the results asap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
619 Fish GOD Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 The tanks been set up for a 1 year I have found out that the reason I've lost Fish is because of a rotten piece of prawn left in a pot I'am about to go down and do a 50% percent change next Thanks all I'll keep you updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
619 Fish GOD Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 Sorry just saw your post Its the last one in the line NO3 I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 NO3 isn't that toxic at ~40ppm, however you have no idea what the NO2 or NH3/4 is!! Definately do the waterchange but make sure you're dechlorinator is good - and get a water sample to an Aquarium shop ASAP for testing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Oops! Seems I read nitrate instead of nitrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
619 Fish GOD Posted September 11, 2005 Author Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yeah I do know what no2 and ammoaioa (Bad Spelling ) Is. Just lost anoter krib (Female) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yeah I do know what no2 and ammoaioa (Bad Spelling ) Is. Just lost anoter krib (Female) ← If you know what they are, why didn't you test for them? what I meant to say was you do not know their readings - if you do you haven't posted them here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 If you have ammonia (good spelling www.dictionary.com is my friend ) problems then maybe chuck some Zeolite into your filter. If you like I can bring a small amount tonight to the meeting to get you started, I have some at home. But you will need to PM me or respond to the this by 4:30pm. also what do you have in your filter as media. If you are using carbon when was it last replaced? If it more than 6 weeks old it might be leeching toxins back into to the water, I have made this mistake once before. cheers rosco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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