Cuong Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 I recently got 5 of these juveniles as my 18th birthday present from my girlfriend Sorry, the pictures aren't too great as I'm not much of a photographer and the camera died (I was takings photos of my dogs beforehand), but I'll try to get some better ones soon. They're currently eating bloodworms, beefheart, brineshrimp and flake. This is the only time they'll come to the front and usually spend their time in and out of shells and hiding from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontyKing Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Very nice Schmuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nannat Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 bloodworms and beefheart?id be hesitant to feed them those protiens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 I agree, especially beef heart, although.....i don't think beef heart should be fed to any fish. Cute lil gals n guys when there small, the whites are probably my favorite alto. Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wombat Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Nice little calvus. I look forward to seeing more shots of them when they get a bit bigger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuong Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 Thanks for the comments. On the matter of beefheart and bloodworms, none of my black calvus or gold comps have gotten bloat and whatnot before. However does anyone have any links or reading material about it? I'm open-minded to suggestions but I would like to read some material before changing their diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Sorry, just wondering why people are concerned about feeding proteins to predatory fishes? I understand the concern over the type of protein in beefheart... But I also still remember when beefheart was considered the only staple to feed discus if you wanted them spawning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 That is true Ducky but they have since discovered that feeding beef heart can have a bad effect on the fisheries liver. So most of the experts stongly advise against feeding warm blooded animal matter to fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 2 seperate sentences in that paragraph Nigel. I understand the concern over the type of protein in beefheart... But I also still remember when beefheart was considered the only staple to feed discus if you wanted them spawning Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned the discus thing, didn't mean to confuse anyone, I was just having flashbacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foai Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I would not feed them bloodworms or beefheart - just my own practice. I had 4 of those fish in a small tank and they all ended up jumping out. 2 jumped through a triangular gap at the corner of the tank with a side of only about 1.5cm. Just be careful with them at least until they have settled in - nothing more disappinting than finding a new fish next to the tank rather than in it. Foai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Well I for one would not buy fish from anyone that feed there fish beef heart. I don't know of any expert overseas that recommends it as a food for fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Nigel/Others - I've not sure we need the opinions of "overseas experts" on this do we? Altolamps are predatory - so they can probably cope with the beefheart. In saying that, beefheart is (I believe) relatively high in saturated fats. If you are preparing it yourself make sure you clean it well and remove as much fat as you can. Beefheart would be mainly protein - which means a heavier nitrogen load on your filters (so go reasonably easy on it). It's certainly inappropriate for most herbivorous africans... but I doubt a small amount is of much concern for predatory species. I personally wouldnt feed beefheart to my lamprologines (it's not often Lamprologines in the wild would eat beefheart, but I guess they probably dont eat marine prawns and various other things which are "ok" to feed) - but I doubt it does them any harm in small quanitities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuong Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 I do prepare it myself and it's a mixture of prawns, tuna, spirulina, womens vitamins, spinach and beefheart. The fat is cut off of course, as are visible tendons and whatnot. Well I for one would not buy fish from anyone that feed there fish beef heart I suppose you're not going to buy any discus then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colfish Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 i'd remove the beef heart and the tuna from the mixture and replace it with any white fish meat. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardukar Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 nice fish dude i've been meaning to get myself a few calvus lately, how much do you think they would sell for in a lfs? also i fed my fish bloodworms for about a year, and they were fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I am just a bit sceptical about blood worms, while they are high in protein are they good for anything else? IMO i don't think they are. Not saying people shouldn't feed them bloodworms at all but only as a source of protein not as a staple. I am also sceptical about some brands of blood worms, i found that when i had discus the fish were more susceptible to getting worms from one or 2 particular brands. I had no problems with the Hikari brand which i believe is the best option for blood worms all be it the most expensive. Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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