Nigel Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 I have entered into negotiations with Stuart Grant and would like to know what people would be interested in. So that I can pass this information on to Stuart. As everyone knows the species we can bring is limited and the last shipment I did bring in from Malawi ( it was not from Stuart ) was hard to sell. So if I can get some idea it will help me to decide if its worth the effort. I guess what I am asking is am I wasting my time and Stuart's. Any feed back would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR73 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Would it be worth investigating the interest in Haplochromine species??? Copadichromis in particular seem rare in Oz (but maybe that's just me ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orac Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 This might seem like a silly question because I don't know much about importing but are you restricted to fish on the allowable imports list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Pseudotropheus cyaneus (Chinyamwezi island) Pseudotropheus sp zebra long pelvic (Mdoka) Copadichromis borleyi (Mara Rocks) Copadichromis mbenjii (Mbenjii Island) Copadichromis virginalis ( Gome ) Copadichromis virginalis gold ( Nkanda) Better wipe my chin now as I am starting to drool I don't think you are wasting your time Nigel , just try and get as much variety of species as you can in smaller numbers . I know that is probally easy said than done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Hi Nigel Otopharynx sp. gold blue face Naknda Tanzania. back to nature p.99, Cynotilapia sp. mbamba Lion cove page 125, Metriaclima sp "black dorsal" Maleri island page 145 Metriaclima sp "membe deep" maingano, Likoma Island page 153 I have just checked the list, none of these are allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Some of those fish might not need to be imported. We might already have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViS Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 You know what annoys me? The fact that there are hardly any Malawi species on our import list, but you can import just about any type of marine fish. Surely marines pose as great a threat to our native fish as african cichlids? At least our ocean will support most species of imported marines straight away, whereas you throw an african cichlid into our generally low pH, cool rivers and not many will survive the first day. Maybe they should allow 100% of Africans into all states except NT and QLD, where they could possibly take hold in a waterway (if the barras don't get them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabros Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Hi Guys, Cynotilapia sp. mbamba Lion cove Pseudotropheus cyaneus (Chinyamwezi island) Pseudotropheus sp zebra long pelvic (Mdoka) Copadichromis borleyi (Mara Rocks) Copadichromis mbenjii (Mbenjii Island) Copadichromis virginalis ( Gome ) Copadichromis virginalis gold Nkanda Metriaclima sp "black dorsal" Maleri island Metriaclima sp "membe deep" maingano, Likoma Island All but this one Otopharynx sp. gold blue face are already here in Oz. You just have too know where too look. HTH Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 The problem I have that none of the species mentioned are on the import list. That means that me importing adult wild caught specimens would be almost impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCormick Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Hi Nigel, Wouldn't it be easier to list the fish that Stuart Grant has available and that also meets our import guidlines, this way you would get a better idea if people were interested in what is actually available instead of what they wish were available. Just a thought on my part but may work out less hassle for you. Cheers, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nigel If you can get wild caught A. baenschi and A. sp. lwanda. I would be very interested Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeyBoyR Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Here is the allowable imports list. I myself am going to be keeping exlusively south american dwarves soon, so I myself dont have a malawi wish list. But lets not forget that we dont necessarily have to bring in new species (although it would be nice), it may also be worthwhile injecting some new blood into already existing species such as saulosi and dimi comps etc. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Is that the allowable import list or a list of known species in Australia. I thought it was a list of species thats available in Australia already This is the list from Sydney Cichlid Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 The one on the SCP is the current import list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cichlabxr Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Lake Malawi Specimens on Allowable Import List: Aulonocara spp. Chilotilapia rhoadesii Cyrtocara moorii Melanochromis auratus Melanochromis simulans Iodotropheus sprengerae To the best of my knowledge. However are these fish similar to anything you would prefer. Fish can accidentally get mislabelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViS Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nigel, if you can find out from Stuart if there have been any recent discoveries in regards to Aulonocara, I'd probably be interested (depending on how they look ) Also, is there only one colour variant of the rhoadesii? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nigel, I think anything that comes in in small numbers will draw interest and sell well. I think the problem with the peacocks last time was that there was so many of each variety that the interested people snapped them up quickly and by the time the late comers started thinking about clean peacock lines there were millions of F1 fry available. As you also experienced, they bred so easily that the fry became impossible to move, even at below what local bred fry of the species/varient were fetching only a couple of months before. Mate, I am still using hueseri fry as feeders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 I was thinking the same thing the last one was a bit much. I might say not my idea but a good lesson learnt. I believe there is some new peacocks Andy so will try to get them as for Rhoadesii I tried to get them last time but no luck. They are not all that plentiful in the lake. Thanks for all the replys when I work it all out I will bring a shipment from Stuart and will see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeyBoyR Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Sorry my bad, thats what I get for trying to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cichlabxr Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 What sort of prices did the previous wild caught Aulonocara go for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nigel is there some way you can confirm numbers and prices and pre-sell some before the come into the country? That way you wont be stuck with as many as you were last time. Maybe like Ducky says, just bring them over in small numbers. I'm sure if Ducky was the only one who got hueseri last time he'd be selling the fry rather than using them as feeders I'd be interested in some new Aulonocara or maybe some wild kandeenses, depending on the numbers coming in and the price you were charging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.s Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nigel, I'd be up for a trio of baenschi nkhomo reef, trio of lwanda, and a trio of chitande type north. I also think you'd sell a lot better if you were prepared to send the fish interstate. Cheers, j.s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 BaZ if memory serves me right, the Aulonocara ranged from $40-$50 a fish and had to be bought in certain ratio depending on type. ie. Mine were in trio's as that ratio meant Nigel wouldn't be stuck with 20 extra males when everyone like me wanted 5 girls to every male I think another type had a 3:1 ratio, it was what came in. I thought the price was fair and the ratio thing was no problem. I am not sure how many other people have even sold any fry from theirs, but when i grew the first couple of batches out and struggled to get $5 for each 4cm fish I gave up. I certainly haven't seen alot sold through the forums at any rate, and I can't imagine anyone having trouble spawning them, mine pump out fry and I don't even try to condition them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Thats the problem with buying wild caught from Africa. They normaly sell them at 2 to 1 ratio the best you can get is 3 to 1. So unless you lose males in transit or in quarantine thats what you get. Like Ducky said I dont want to get stuck with males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nigel I was just thankful they don't send them 1:1 or worse, with males outnumbering females Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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