shelly Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Just wondering in your opinion what are the hardest fish to breed or the hardest fry to raise.TIAI am up for a challenge.Cheers Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid_mafia Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 discus ......... for sure if your up for a challange or clown loachs lol coz its never been done ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Discus is a good one. I am highly considering them.I will Probably just stick to things that have been breed before in tanks.Thanx for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Define hard!I have had trouble breeding some of the more common species and no trouble breeding some of the harder stuff.Breed B. tricoti and raise the fry, that's a challenge, Some of the catfish can be somewhat hard, or even Petrochromis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel1985 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Breed something that will make the $$$ so your hobby pays for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Hi JoshMy definition of hard could include things like: a species that requires very specific conditions to breed: a specicies that breeds in small numbers: a species where the fry are hard to raise: a species that is rare in the hobby because of trouble breeding them.I do take your point what is hard for 1 person could be like breathing for another.Hi JoelI am hoping that i can find something that can cover some costs, but also wanting a challenge.Thanx for yr input any other ideas are welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joller Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 otocinclus catfish, very few reported spawns, very much sought after by planted tankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shon982 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Some Tanganyikan Cichlids fit every bit of your criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwah Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 discus ......... for sure if your up for a challange or clown loachs lol coz its never been done .....this may be a stupid question, but if they're so hard to breed why are there so many of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid_mafia Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 there hard not impossible thats why ..... bwah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Royal whiptail catfish ... you can get them to breed but raising the fry is the problem asthey are the laziest feeders and will starve to death rather than look for foodsuper low pH fish like N. transvestitusthe problem is that a lot of the $$$ fish have a limited market as opposed to species thatare easier to breed and sell in qty like Electric Yellowit's the luck of the draw where you need to have a certain species at a time when there ismore demand than supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid_mafia Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 thats intresting dont now much about the whip tail seens like a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEG-IT Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Wild Pterophyllum altum (orinoco angelfish), goodluck lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canberra Alex Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 even the humble cardinal tetra give that a go........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc01 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 B.tricotiI have never heard of a tank raised specimen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topogigio Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 discus ......... for sure if your up for a challange or clown loachs lol coz its never been done .....this may be a stupid question, but if they're so hard to breed why are there so many of them?They are all imported from wild caught stock.I agree with the P. altum suggestion as it will be nice to see more around. Another angel species to consider is P. leopoldi as you hardly ever see them anymore.If you can get your hands on the very few that are around, Vieja argentea.Non cichlid fish: Galaxy rasbora or even garra ruffa and have your own spa parties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Thanx guys great suggestionsI am leaning toward whiptails atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Is garra ruffa an option? Do they exist in Oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Is garra ruffa an option? Do they exist in Oz?They are not permitted here in Australia. They are not on the Import list and from memory they are on the banned list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topogigio Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Is garra ruffa an option? Do they exist in Oz?They are not permitted here in Australia. They are not on the Import list and from memory they are on the banned list.so are a number of other things, L-numberts, etc & i'll leave it there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malrift Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 L numbers are not on the banned or noxious list that is the difference. There was a lady in Cairns that raised tricotti that she bred there. This has been the only known casein aquariums tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shon982 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I do know of two or three other people apart from the Lady in Carins who also have bred and raised a few Tricoti fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Domenic from bega has also breed and raised tricoti fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elapid Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Don't bother going with whiptails, you will figure out how to raise the fry very easily.Here is a tip: They don't like any flow at all as fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajica79 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Royal whiptail catfish ... you can get them to breed but raising the fry is the problem asthey are the laziest feeders and will starve to death rather than look for foodsuper low pH fish like N. transvestitusthe problem is that a lot of the $$$ fish have a limited market as opposed to species thatare easier to breed and sell in qty like Electric Yellowit's the luck of the draw where you need to have a certain species at a time when there ismore demand than supplyI have Had the Lg6 Whiptails breed 3 times in 4 weeks getting me about 60 hatched fry i now have 5 fry that are about 3 months old the rest perished or were eaten but i have learnt from the first big breeding and plan to do things a little different next breeding but these are a definite harder fish to breed and raise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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