aymenz Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hi Guys, here are some quick photos I took Yesterday morning... Your feedback will be much appreciated: Flamebacks: Red Empress Male: Red Rubin Peacocks: Dominant Male Sub Dominant Male and Female Females Electric Blue: Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi sand diver Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Really nice Electric Blue you have there, that is one of the Maleri island ones (with the red anal fin). Also nice colour on the peacocks. But IMO your red empress male is in fact a Protomelas Spilonontus Tanzania and your Flamebacks are Crimson Tide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi sand diver Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 AKA Astatotilapia latifasciata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 That's correct about the Crimson Tides, but I don't really know about the Red Empress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 checked my Red Empress is the Protomelas Taeniolatus as sometimes it shows the red and blue on it;s body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi sand diver Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 They do tend to get more red later aswell, still a fairly young one. That first pic of the Crimson tide is cool, looks like she has a full gob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yeah already spat them out, about 30 of them, left it in the same tank for about 3 weeks and a half and then she spat them out in the 2 footer after I moved her into it... Pretty cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 That "red rubin" is actually a Aulonocara baenschi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I would actually say the red empress is closer to protemlas similis did you get it from a trust worthy breeder the protemalas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzagfish Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Similis only have one bar across the length of the fish Cheers Lionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yeah it's not a similis, looks like a red empress to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Matt Red Rubins are Aulonacara stuartgranti Chipoka that were a line breed and that is what is in the pic The pic is not Aulonacara baenschi benga Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 I have purchased the "Red Rubins" from a trustworthy member here no ACE, and there is a long thread regarding this issue, you can check it out... http://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?show...mp;hl=red+rubin and The other one was closed... couldn't find it.. As for the red empress it is definitely the Protomelas Taeniolatus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Yeah i know they were line bred, but i thought they were more red not yellow? My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog013 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 this is a pic of my new flameback male, can anyone ID this? hes a bit aggressive and starting to bully my cobalts the trio may have to go soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 It looks like a xmas fulu to me, very nice male there... Mad colors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog013 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 http://www.cichlids.com/pictures/pic/Red_F...Nyererei-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi sand diver Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hi mate he's an sp44 thick skin. I love those fish. Super aggressive though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog013 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 he has three females to breed with, but he is also in a 3ft tank with a colony of 10 cobalts and a trio of crabro he is already trying to become boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I though it was a Pundamilia nyererei. Some of these fish have a red splash over the back, so they get miss named as Flameback which is a different fish. Xystichromis sp. "flameback", http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1548 Xystichromis sp. "Kyoga flameback" , http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1550 As far as I am aware neither of these fish entered the country when Vics first appeared. But someone wiser and more experienced could clarify. Most fish going around as Flamebacks or Kyoga Flamebacks are actually P. nyererei and this fish also has a variant that is more "blue" like the fish pictured above. Haplochromis sp. "#44" thickskin, http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1546 Sp. 44 usually has quite a lot of yellow on the flank. I am ordering this book to learn more. http://www.grandapublishing.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Thanks for the reply Mattrox, well illustrated and explained.... My Crimson Tide male, shows different coloration based on its mood. This photo that I have attached was for it when it was sleeping, took it before going to work, I normally open the blinds for the sun to come through, since my tank is very close to it, and this allows a Natural Habitat look a like, never turn on the lights unless I wanna feed them at night.... Once I open the blinds it takes them a while to wake up and become alert... I have another pics where it is only showing Yellow and Green on its body no red... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi sand diver Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hi Matt I used to own a fish identical to that one. When I got it, it came in a tank of crimson tides but I brought it home and after research, I concluded it was a thickskin/crimson tide hybrid. Still not 100% sure of the conclusion though. The fish Robdog pictures is much darker than a nyererei all over and doesn't have the red blaze at the top. But I hadn't considered a blue variant of pundamilia nyeri. Are you refering to Pundamilia Pundamilia? Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymenz Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 and here is a Video which shows the different coloration on the Crimson Tide Enjoy it and please ignore the voice (as it is was my BIL, going nuts) My Malawi Tank: Click here to watch the Video Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I have seen pics of fish identical before in a different forum's ID section. I thought it looked like this http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=2637 Pundamilla sp.'Blue Bar' Hippo Point Or Pundamilla pundamilla http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=2575 And the Hippo Point Blue bar is thought to possibly be a location variant of the above P pundamilla. That's what I thought it was for sure but was told it is nyererei. Possibly because of the genetic mess Vics are in, in Aus and world wide there is confusion. Plus a nyererei Flameback could have crossed with a hippo point some time close to the introduction of these fish in Aus and these blue fish pop up from red backed fish. We actually need a Vic expert to sort out the mess..... [rant] I mean the crimson tides sold in shops aren't even crimson tides FFS Crimson tide http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1570 What the LFS calls a crimson tide http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1556 [/rant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi sand diver Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Aymenz, Those fish in the video love playing around with the algae disc, sort of like a dog with a ball. I hope you don't mind us discussing Robdog's fish. Matt, I posted about 3 years ago on a different forum on what is a similar fish as Robdog's here: http://www.cichlidforums.com/showthread.php?t=36418 Here are some shots of the black fish I had back in 2008 Probably a hybrid but an interesting fish to keep back then since it was so dark. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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