sicj Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Hi all Was just looking at some photos of rare cichlids on the web and was thinking. What would be the top 10 rare cichlids in our hobby at the moment. I know that alot of species come and go. What do you guys think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Australia, or globally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris_trico Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 african , sth. american, native ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 It would be a very hard thing to try and guage. However, we should automatically exclude anything on the allowable import list, as we can always bring more of any of those in. Non-allowable imports that have become rare in Oz are legion. We could be here for a long time adding to the list as things come to mind. However, if you mean rarest Cichlids worldwide because of scarcity in nature, I don't know off-hand - although I imagine that true Pterophyllum altum would be on that top ten list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicj Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Any type of cichlids but within Australia that we rarely or never see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 There are very many... It would be hard to narrow it down to a list of 10, as there are more than 10 which are equally hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Lets refine search to African cichlids in lake Malawi and tang found in the oz hobby so 2 seperate lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcloughlin2 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 You can't write a list up like this. Almost any african cichlids apart from the bread and butter species of the hobby wuld be classed as rare. I feel bad everytime I sell quality colonies for fear next time I want them I want be able to find the same quality. Unfortunately its the way of the hobby, luckily there are those who get bitten by the bug and end up with garages full of tanks and bring some species back into the hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Whilst there are quite a lot of Malawi and Tang Cichlids that could be mentioned, cichlids from Central/South America, Asia and Lake Victoria should be included. It'd be more like the top 100 than top ten though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Nandopsis, Crenicichla, Chalinochromis, Lepidolamprologus, Pseudotropheus, honestly there are dozens of species... not to mention things that are just lost/deformed from inbreeding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I think we should just make a list of what's not rare, Everything else is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firthy13 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Malawi wise, i think the true wild form aulonocara species are some of the hardest to come across because of interbreeding and hybridization. champsochromis caeruleus also?? have personally never seen one in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 species I've had or see out here that I can't find anymore Lamp christyi Lamp pleuromacalatus Lamp cunningtoni Limnotilapia dardenii Hap labrosus Mylochromis incola Labidachromis pallidus Melanochromis exasperatus Krobia itanyi Aequidens paraguensis Aquidens tetrameris Guianacara geayi Crenicichla saxitalis Heros psitticus Geophagus daemon Gymnogeophagus meridionalis Nandopsis motaguense Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 And I'll add... Neolamprologus falcicula (walteri) Metriaclima (Ps.) elegans Heros cyanoguttatus (True Texas) Vieja maculicauda (haven't seen any that aren't hybrids for aaaages) Taenicara candidi (not sure if these can be imported) Aequidens portalegrense Neolamprologus mustax (I think these are allowable) Copadichromis quadrimaculatus Gymnogeophagus australis Gymnogeophagus rhabdotus Etroplus suratensis And more to come as I think of them Don't worry about Mel. exasperatus, Chris... I have them and so do a few others around here... They'll be coming back into the hobby soon. Cheers, Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Edwards Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Neolamp falcicula walteri and cygnus Vieja maculicauda Neolamprologus mustax (I think these are allowable) Etroplus suratensis The above are still around, thankfully. Spp I can think of to add; Tomo sieboldi Leipideolamp boulengeri Satan acuticeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Who has walteri? I would very much like to get some and proliferate them. Not seen in Sydney for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicj Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Just a question about Petros. Does anyone know why we cannot import different types into the country. They are so similar to tropheus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I'm not sure if they're allowable or not... I think one or two species are. Trouble with Petrotilapia is that they are so frightfully aggressive that many colonies implode quickly because they're not often kept in tanks big enough with lots of territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicj Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 I was reffering to Petrochromis from Tanganyika. There are so many of them and they are similar to tropheus yet we only have i think 1 allowable in the country. Would be nice to see more of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Only one Petro is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Excuse my senior moment, folks... I too meant Petrochromis - not sure why I put Petrotilapia. If I remember rightly, Petrochromis trewavasae is the allowable species. Beautiful fish, but not very nice to each other. It is these I have seen in colonies that have killed each other down to one fish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsx Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Depends, I've seen petro's that are much better than tropheus colony's in aggression, they can both go either way. Just depends if you get lucky, or unlucky. Cheers Mark~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianniz Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 isn't rarest generally the most costly??? if so what is the most expensive cichlid in Oz??? fucifer/featherfins??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris_trico Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 what would be the most rarest featherfin (tang).? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 The rarest is not necessarily the most expensive... There are some varieties of Ophthalmotilapia and Cyathopharynx that we never see around anymore, whereas Benthochromis tricoti is around in small numbers and is still much more expensive than any other featherfin. To ask what is the rarest Cichlid in the hobby is a bit of an unrealistic question, I'm afraid. As we mentioned before, the list would be a long one of equally rare species. Another thing to consider is that many of what we've talked about in this thread are allowable imports, so all it would take for these to be common again would be an importer with the right contacts. I believe the important thing to do is proliferate the rarer ones that are not on the import list, so that we'll have them around to enjoy for a long time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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