ziad Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I came across these pics in my browsing. Frontosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Black widow? I have read the article,apparently man made. Venustus cross? Obviously, the Germans love experimenting! Sorry if i offended anyone,my appologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Hey Ziad, These have been around for a while but I dont think they are in Australia. I think they are called 'black widow' or something similar. Im not a fan - they just arent that appealing IMO Cheers Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Beat me to it Albie, I dont think they are a cross. Im pretty sure they are simply linebred fontosa. Cheers Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziad Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share Posted June 3, 2009 It is interesting that I only breed my fronts with straight and full barring but these fish have been bred for bad or no barring. Still a nice fish though. would be good to have a frontosa with no bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I'd love to know how fish are line bread, to change stripes to blotches. I wander if its reversible,to line breed a venustus with stripes!!! Just kidding Joel,who knows what they'll come up with next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 The thing I dont get is how long it would take to line breed these fish. Considering how long it takes to get fronnies to breeding size and assuming things went really well then and it only took say four generations to get them looking like this, then it could have taken 20 years. More likely to be a cross me thinks Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropifish Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I don't know but I thought cross breed should not be encourage??!!! Imagine these fronnies go back to the wild, and years later, next generations won't get to see the original frontosa no more !!! and the original Venustus !!! I still prefer my 4 fronts in my tank !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 The thing I dont get is how long it would take to line breed these fish. Considering how long it takes to get fronnies to breeding size and assuming things went really well then and it only took say four generations to get them looking like this, then it could have taken 20 years. Could they have pulled a few frontosa out of the lake with pretty ordinary barring and then line bred a few generations worth? I guess its a long shot - thats some pretty radical barring. I wonder how well they sell? Cheers Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I think i'm with you on that one Tropifish, i'll stick with my sevens and Zaires! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6C1 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 mmm dont like! Not nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petshopdude Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 hybird or line breed, bottom line pretty crappy looking fish IMO, if they are cross with a venustus would they colour up when it hit adult size if a male?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_to4 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 disgusting, i love frontosa and think every precaution should be taken to preserve their natural beauty. There are enough variants out there in the wild to keep everyone satisfied. these hybrid or man made fronts should be banished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobcas Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 The thing I dont get is how long it would take to line breed these fish. Considering how long it takes to get fronnies to breeding size and assuming things went really well then and it only took say four generations to get them looking like this, then it could have taken 20 years. Josh This could easily be the case I believe because there would be people who have kept Fronts for 20 years plus and have kept their fry with bad barring and then breed these together and so on....and then they decide its time to try and make a dollar or in this case a Deutschmark. Their not too my taste. I know of a completely jet black male fronny, mmmm, perhaps I should think about breeding him... Cheers Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcloughlin2 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 These frontosas are not the product of a hybrid cross. The original stock had bad barring and this trait has just been selective bred for a few generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfishyhmm Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 imo they are not a good looking fronnie...but in saying that,we all have different taste budds hey albie could you imagine what we could do if we tried fronnies & calvus fronnies with dots & calvus with stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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