anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Will do mate and do you mind if i ask questions in the near future greatly appreciated. Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropheusQueen Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I have never had to remove or sell any excess males I keep a close eye on all tanks and adjust the rockwork or lack of it accordingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 ohh ok well thats a relief ... whats your opinion on 15 tropheus ikola for a standard 5 foot tank? They will have no tank mates! is this ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropheusQueen Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 ohh ok well thats a relief ... whats your opinion on 15 tropheus ikola for a standard 5 foot tank? They will have no tank mates! is this ok? If you purchase fry they will be a little lost in all that space but will soon learn to spread out. I too feel that if you have the tank size why not go for a few more - you will increase your chance of more female to male ratio, the saying safety in numbers applies here as well. The bioload will certainly not be great with 15 even at adult size in that tank . Keep up the enthusiasm - you will find them - have you tried CThompson?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Now im confused again im not sure about getting the ikolas coz i can only get 15 or so and i dont want them to die. And i think i might start off with ilangi or duboisi because i can get about 20 of them i have tried Cthompson Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwards Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 You are saying you can only get 15 or so due to money or reccommended stocking levels? If money is the issue, Jim is selling his Ikola for the same price as his Ilangi at the moment (though he doesn't ship interstate). It wouldn't surprise me if others were selling for similar $s. If you are worried about the number of fish, you can keep just as many Ikola as Ilangi or Maswa. And trust me, they won't die unless you do something to cause it. If the water is OK and stable, nitrates are kept as low as possible and they are fed the right foods you won't have any problems. I was had a general impression about them keeling over easily, but after reading lots, asking lots of questions and now having kept some they are nowhere near as scarey as you may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Thanks now im gonna get 15 ikolas definetly whoever in the future would it be possible to put in 15 moliro juveniles with the ikola or is that a bad idea??? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwards Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I'm a fan of having just one Tropheus variant per tank, with all the action that goes on you don't really need another. I have some leptos in my tank to try to fill the upper part of the tank as the Trophes spend most of their time down low on the rocks, but the Ts are number one. If I was you, I would be putting extra Ikola into the tank rather than a new variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Ohh i see! but i have heard that the ikola is very aggresive and when adding other ones in they kill them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 If it was me, I would shoot for 20 - 25 Ikola bubs in that tank. Adding them all at once is ideal but not crucial. As long as you don't wait too long, adding juveniles to juveniles is a piece of cake, you just have to use a couple of simple tricks that we can clue you in on when the time comes. If Ikola isn't able to be sourced, many of us up here have many beautiful variants of Ts that you can choose from, that are breeding at the moment. ie Aline- Lufubu, dub Maswa, Chipimbi, Kiriza, Nkonde Dave- Golden Kazumba, Ilangi Me- Mpulungu I do agree though that Ikola are very beautiful, if you can get 'em, go for it. I agree with Aline though, don't get the duboisi just for the sake of it. You won't give them the proper care because you won't truly appreciate them. Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Jamie, You said that you had some kaiserII or kiriza for sale i was wondering if you would be willing to ship and how much would they be send me a pm or just post on here! Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Sorry mate, that aint me, I have Mpulungu. PS G'day Jim!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 then could you please give me the username of someone that you know has them???? Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 My post says that Aline has some, whether she has fry for sale I don't know. Her username is Chipimbi. Your multiple question marks suggests to me that you are getting a bit touchy with me. I suggest you shouldn't feel this way towards people who are trying to help you and show some respect. Jamie. If I took your tone the wrong way, then I apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Oh no..... sometimes i do that its just like a habbit of mine Its ok and i really apreciate your help! And thank you for pointing me into a sellers direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I sincerely apologise Anthony . Sorry for being a tool. Good luck with your search, Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Its ok I hope that you will help me again in the near future when i do get my tropheus.... Cheers Anthony ________________________________ Also anyone else if you would like to share your advice your more than welcome Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 No worries . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Also anyone else if you would like to share your advice your more than welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwards Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Have you got any more questions? It's hard to tell you more without knowing what you need info or advice on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 I have heaps of Questions and since you said that im gonna let them all out Would you have any idea of the size of the fry are when the female spits? Is 10 tropheus ikola kaiser good enough for a standard 5 foot tank. Or would they die.... i no i ask this question alot but ive had totally different answers from everyone? Thats all until you answer Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwards Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I would say that 10 is definately too few to have a successful tank, you will also find that it looks very empty with that number. With plenty of filtration and appropriate water changes you can keep many many more than that in your tank. If money is the issue then wait a little longer and put aside money to get a decent number to start with. You may be fine with having only 10, but veteran keepers with loads of experience suggest that you have more rather then less. This isn't because they want to try and sell more fish, but because more often then not having more fish works better than having less. With less fish there are less numbers to spread the agression around, say you are at a school with 10 people in your class and there are 2 or 3 bullies. That means that the remaining 7 people will suffer constant harassment. Now if you go to a class with 25 people in it you will still have 2-3 bullies, but there are 22 other people to be harrassed. Apply this idea to your tank, the less each individual fish is likely to be harassed and the less likely you will suffer from agression related deaths. The other thing is that these fish are colony minded and set their own social structure, they also feel much safer in larger numbers, the more the merrier really. You will get more out of them if they don't feel scared to come out from the rock work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 That makes alot of sense!! Yes i will get 15 of them, i feel that, that should be a suitable number of fish...also what age do they start breeding any idea?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwards Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 As for the breeding this is long term - your T's will start from between 12 months - 18 months but will only reach full speed at around 3-5 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthO Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Yep but however!!!!.... I read on another forum that another guys tropheus (duboisi i think) bred at only 3.5 - 4 cm Anyway another question;) IF i was to get 3cm tropheus what size do they usually start to colour up? Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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