Ant Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 Seeing, that that male is alot lighter in the body than mine (mine is lilac) and yours is not as orange as mine id say that it is a yellow top. Nice fish too Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danpri Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 A lot of the L.hongi in Australia,is probably not pure,my opinion,feel free to disagree.Is the way to keep Australia's cichlids as pure as possible to say "It doesn't suit me that they may not be pure,so mine are definately pure,no question(I might lose some money,oh no)"? As for the high horse statement I'll take it as I think I'm better than most of the cichlid keepers looking after our cichlid stock,thanks for the compliment,I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiona Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hey Ute God (LOL), "black bar" refers to a totally different species, a Metriaclima, look here. Yours is a small fish. Hard to tell coz colours can be different on the screen. If the fin colour I am seeing is accurate, I would say that your fish will go more orange as it matures. That whitey colour is how they go when they are heavily displaying ... it's not usually that white, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ute God Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 nah he is more like my female cobolt colour a light bluey and it is yellow the picture is a bit off but it is more yellow then orange and his colour could be a bit off cos he has only just reached the 24hr mark of being in my tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hmmm...they look like hongi to me. And seeing as there is only L.hongi, not seperated species of hongi recognised by location(by any Respected authors that I can find reference to), they are not red or yellow top, just my 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 I have been watching some lovely red finned A. compressiceps and red finned L. caudopunctatus at a LFS for the past few months. They have faded in that time. Both sets of fish were traded in from the same source and were obviously colour fed. merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 Ok so it is final, there is only one species of hongi here in Aus. It seems there is still a hint of doubt, but if Konnings says that there is only 1 then i'm convinced. Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalyst Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Mabey the Australian L.Hongi are not pure, how do we find out? Does any one know how to import the fish so we can get some new pure stock? I like my L.Hongi's and I also like my fish to be pure so I am willing to get some of these in if any one knows how! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalyst Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Ok I have done some more searching and this is what I have come up with Labidochromis sp. "red top kimpuma" Labidochromis sp. "hongi" To me they look as though one is more mature than the other. The photo I found of the blue and yellow hongi was obviously a doctored one. this is the only reference I can find to Colour Variants. and this source is not what I would call acurate. I am starting to think the difference may only be which location they are caught in. They are caught from Lundo Islands; Liuli; Mbamba Bay Is.; and Undu Reef mabey this gives the answer to the slight colour differences as the name comes from the first location they where caught in. I have also found here in S.A. all our L.Hongi are the same variant(Labidochromis sp."red top kimpuma"),mabey our lack of avaliable fish has paid off. Hey but I am still willing to import some new ones just to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Konings (2001) considers Labidochromis sp. "hongi" and the similar Labidochromis sp. "red-top kimpuma" to be synonomous (variants of same species) Distribution: Hongi - Lundo Islands; Liuli; Mbamba Bay Is.; and Undu Reef, Lake Malawi So basically it means that the hongi are all the same, but the colour varies slightly depending on where in the lake they were caught from. Just quoting Andy...for those that missed it. Have a look at the home page information that is provided on the "Colour Varients" link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSC Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 IMHO, and that of many others there is one species of Labidochromis sp. "Hongi" This fish has yet to be described, any scientists wanna go and do it? :-) I think if for the time being everyone adheres to Konings, we can't go wrong. It is highly unlikely we have more then one location variant of Hongi in Australia. The specimens I have seen, closely resemble those found at Hongi Island. By using names such as "SRT" (Super Red Top) and "Red Top Kimpuma" we are just confusing the issue. I have grown out a few Hongi fry, and the fish have shown varying degrees of yellow/orange as they mature and become dominant. If anyone wishes to see some pictures let me know. I have some good examples of the ability to change colour. Here is my personal favourite Hongi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E4G13M4N Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Nice pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiona Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 You mean this info Maz? I am no fish expert, so you may find some information that may be inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 You mean this info Maz? I am no fish expert, so you may find some information that may be inaccurate. Exactly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarvegorilla Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Well not sure what colour varient I have but got them from a dude 'jonesy' and they are great! Apparently the parents were imports. Only had these fish for a few days and have to admit I feel like climbing in the tank and hugging them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Well not sure what colour varient I have but... There are no colour varients to be unsure about. Jonsey...I hear his fish are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 LOL is this thread still going....ive created a monster!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Maybe we're just so tied up in the pursuit of ""perfection"" (eg. electric yellows and frontosa) that we see any "natural" variation as something wrong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Maybe we're just so tied up in the pursuit of ""perfection"" (eg. electric yellows and frontosa) that we see any "natural" variation as something wrong?? Good call Duck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 I Agree!!!!!!! Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I think you are right on the money there Ducksta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarvegorilla Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 True........... anyone ever wonder if very very rarely hybrids occur in native populations and are absorbed into a species. Sort of a stealth evolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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