madcichlid Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi Everybody, This fish has been identified as Champsochromis spilorhynchus, he is gone now . I have kept the the female caeruleus and one male caeruleus is on the way. I am looking forward having a pair. Thanks all for your input Ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poxboy Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I think it may well be the latter. IMO caeruleus has a more slender body. Stunning fish whatever the case . Bretto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Sorry Ziggy but my vote goes to the spilo . It is still a very nice fish though Andrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeyBoyR Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'd say spilo aswell. Regardless of species it is a magnificent looking fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I agree with the others that it is Champsochromis spilorhynchus. As well as having a stockier body than C. caeruleus it also appears from the photo that the dorsal fin is more like C. spilorhynchus. Even still it is a beautiful fish. Is it in a display tanK? Ged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I think on another site he had a picture of the female as well. Maybe get that pic up to see which species it is also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I'm have second thoughts on it being Champsochromis spilorhynchus. One of the distinquishing features of this species is a black lachrymal stripe that runs from the eye to the corner of the mouth. Your fish does not seem to have this in the photo that you have. Does it have this black stripe normally or is it just this picture? A picture of the female may help. Gerard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsonboyd Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 G'day I'm putting a large some of money on Champsochromis spilorhynchus, the caeruleus has a longer snout and is more blue then green. i have kept both of these species and i am 99.9% sure its a spilo! Cheers Boyd 0411107554 watsonboyd@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keleher Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 my bets a spilo im keeping them at the moment. that black strip the male loses when it starts to colour up but sometime mine still shows up. and like someone said c.caeruleus has a more stremline body. HTH james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hey Ziggy, that is definately no caeruleus. Not even vaguely.. I thought at first glance that it was hybrid but its just the angle of the shot. It does look like a spilo though Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcichlid Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hi Everybody, I'm still not sure what it is if you have a look at the last pic, taken without a flash to me it looks more like a Champsochromis caeruleus. The female comes from a different shop, so no use to send a picture of her. I was going to breed this species now I have doubts. I'll have to take them to a shop in brisbane and see what they have to say about it. In the mean time I'll be searching for another male. Here is a link of pic which looks similar to my C.caeruleus pic Thanks Again Ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 The last photo makes me think Champsochromis caeruleus. None of the photos show the black stripe from the eye to the mouth. I know James said that his comes and goes. Has your male ever had this stripe? Ged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 The female pic might help establish if you have a nice pair of spilo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I've had and seen adult caeruleus and I can safely say that it is not a caeruleus. The last picture sort of, could pass,as a caeruleus if you didn't have any other pics to choose from. The rest of the shots show a fish too short and broad in the body with a broad head. I think a profile shot of the boy and girl together may help or a shot of the boy totally side on, not zoomed in quite as much so we can see the length in the body. Does the fish have the same look as the girl?? Just read Ducksta's reply...could be the case also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcichlid Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hi again, This is a shot of the girl, I'll try after work to get a profile shot of the two together. No I've never noticed any black stripe on this male but the girl has one. Thanks Ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Even on that angle the girl looks better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poxboy Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 The only reason the last pic looks a bit like a caeruleus is because it's taken from above the fish, therefore you lose the depth aspect. It makes him look more topedo like than he really is. Bretto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcichlid Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 This male is pretty slender more than the pics give away, I must ad that I haven't seen another male to compared with. In the females case she is 4 cm shorter than the male and more slender build she almost looks skinny. Lets see who they look when I can get both together for a pic. Might have to book them in for a photo shoot. Ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Here is a shot of one from our profile forum caeruleus pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcichlid Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 The colours of Anitas fish looks similar to my and I wouldn't say that he looks slender either, finage is also similar but compare the head shape that's different. Even if you go trough all the search engines and look at different pics you find that they always have a different look about them. Cheers Ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroyd Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hello all, Ziggy got the girl from me. I'm sure she's C. caeruleus. The male has a red spot on each scale; he looks like a C. spilorynchus to me. Cheers, Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The cichlid Man Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Definately agree with that it is Champsochromis spilorhynchus. Regards, Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcichlid Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hi All, This the only decent picture I took with both of them together. See what you think. Thanks everybody for your input. Cheers Ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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