mystic Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Hi I got some calvus, was wondering if is one or is it something else? Any opinions appreciated.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huyey Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Looks to me like a juvenile calvus. A good looking one too.How many did you get and what type are they (black, white or yellow)?Cheers, Huy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 hehe their funny lookin fellas aren't they, but i want one Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nannat Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 great photo!lovely calvus juvenile.they grow very slowly and eat protien foods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bek_h Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 i have a few clavus myself and was advised not to give them to much meat product as they cant handle it, i was advised to give them brine shrimponce a week or so and apart from that keep them on a spirilina base diet, although from what i have seen on here and read in some other places i have noticed that alot of people raise the fry on brine shrimp. Once again its a case of "who do u listen too" i myself have gone with the brine shrimp once a week or so and they seem to be doing fine.veeeeeeeeery slow growing though. gets to the point where you just wish you would wake up one morning and they would be full grown..............but i guess that wouldnt be any fun would it.i also found that my larger calvus was picking on the the other 2. i ended up just putting some aulonacara in with them and this seemed to settle him down a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Hey Mystic, As a 8cm male I would have thought that there would have been a little more colour on him. Also he's got one hellova gold head on him once again for a 8 cm fish (male). If he came from 'that' shop in Perth it could be possable that he's dodgy. I've had to return some fish because they were white and yellow.... and listen to the excuses from the salesman It could be a girl I guess...... ? but she would still have more colour IMO.Bek.. Feeding your fish on a staple diet of spirilina is not really good for the fish and is the reason that your fish is growing slowly. These fish require a high protein diet (being a preditory fish) for the best results. A good high protein flake or pellet, I use Orca pellets, supplimented with frozen/live brine and glass shrimp if you can find them at your local shop. This should help the little fellas Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita_ozfish Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Bek, I totally agree with Chuckmeister. Do some research on the Altos and you will see that they are all predators - not vegetarians : If you have seen posts where people feed the fry on b/shrimp, that would be because live foods such as these, as well as micro and grindle worms are small enough to feed these guys when newly hatched and probably for the next 6 months or so. Live foods also promote rapid growth in these slow growing fish and any other for that matter. They do require a high protein diet but a bit of veggie wouldn't hurt.Mine get a combo of orca pellets, home made food and bloodworms once a week. Also frozen daphnia sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Gun_Riff Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 i have 4 comrpessiceps and they seem to love they red empress fry in the rocks but after reading abit i read they eat fry in the wild and thats why their head is that shape my brother got them when i was 11 and still not full size and im 15 is this normal? their around 12 cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishie4me Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Nice fish mate, they are hard to breed but if you have abreeding colony that actually breeds then u'll be stitting there laughing :lol: anyways, really good looking fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xinguinsis Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 yeh just chipping in on whats already being stated Alto comps and calvus are highly specialised fry predators which is why they are so laterally compressed well one name says that , so they can get into crevices that fry can hide from most other predators in . Don't know what gut length is but sure it suggests a high protien diet (short gut) as apossod to what you generally feed predominately vegie flakes to say tropheus with a very long gut length. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita_ozfish Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Is this the same fish that you are selling on the Perth forum that was originally purchased as a black calvus?? I don't think it is a black calvus, or a yellow for that matter : At 8cm and a black calvus, this fish should have some consistant colour in it.On your original pics, one looked like a comp and the other a calvus.Can you put those original pics back up as well so the 2nd fish can be seen better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic Posted December 20, 2003 Author Share Posted December 20, 2003 Shoulda mentioned that that pic was taken when it was a juvenile....Just took some more pics for ur examination, think still got alot of growing to do too, when I say 8cm it is from the very tip of the snout to the very end of the tail FemaleMaleBothThey were pretty black with black bars with dark blue lips at one stage, does the color depend on the color of their surrounding?Maybe should try putting them in a darker substrate and see what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Hi Mystic, If you got them from where I think you did, the supplier of that shop had both calvus and compressies and mixed morphs together. This has led to blacks, whites and yellows (and whatever else!) to interbreed. I think that's what has happened here - the snout looks a little too short for a calvus (they usually look more like a compressicep that has rear-ended a parked car) and the colour is confusing too. merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolute_vodka01 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 i would have to agree with merjo with the shape...how ever the patten on the fish look much like calvus... the dots.maybe calviceps? : adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic Posted December 21, 2003 Author Share Posted December 21, 2003 Hi hehe yep look likes the general consensus about perths supply of calvus is really wacked up, probably due to some local breeder mass breeding them and causing everyone lots of problems. Anyway thanks for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Just to lob my 2 cents worth into the discussion...If they were bought from "The" shop that Chuck and Merjo have mentioned you will be better of finding space for them in the Freezer or returning them to the shop with a big "No-Thank-You!!" attached.There are very few good Alto's in WA and it is, in large, the fault of the shop that Merjo, Chuck and myself have alluded to. They are ruthless in their sales pitch and they are sending these same Calvisseps to the East in huge numbers also.PLEASE, be very carefull when buying Alto's that have come from WA.I will only buy Alto's from people I know or breeders who will let me look at their breeding set-up...and this is what I would advise all others to do wherever possible.HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 It is My understanding that it is no longer just a problem to W.A as the breeding stock from this supplier has sold out to a wholesaler in QLD. People with nice black calvus would be wise to hold onto them IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Good call Chuck...that is why I placed the caution notice in my post about the sale in the East of these abortions of Alto's.andp.s. anyone with nice Alto's of any species/varient would be advised to hang onto them as the blood-lines will be under a very high threat from this Alto-adulteration!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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