andrew8710 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Hi All, Since Saturday my 4x2x2 with Americans has been showing signs of white spot, I am still yet to see distinctive spots though but am seeing little bits of white film so starting to think it may be a fungal or bacteria infection. I completed a 25% water change about 2 weeks ago and added a wild caught red devil around the same time. I have attached a few photos but it definately seems to be the convicts and silver dollars worst affected. The oscars, Texas and black belts are all at the surface gasping for air but are still eating and swimming a bit. I have upped the temperature to 30 and have treated with white spot remedy but haven't seen much, if any improvement to date Let me know what everyone thinks and the best way to treat? Cheers Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andrew8710 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Here is a better photo of the red devil with the white like fungus. I have lost now 2 silver dollars, 2 convicts and a large upside down cat. Hopefully someone can help???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cichlidrookie12 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Do you have air stones or sponge filters in your tank? Once you increase the temperature of the tank it reduces the oxygen in water. Maybe that's why the the silver dollar is up gasping for air For the ich treatment this might help http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/ich.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 first question is what are the water parameters of the tank ? have you also tested it for nitrite nitrate and ammonia it is looking more water condition and/or bacterial than Ich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ageofaquariums Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Get some serious water surface agitation going! You need way more oxygenation in there IMHO especially running it at 30degC. Certainly looks more like columnaris to me. I would drop temperature to 24degC, increase oxygenation and then hit it with something broad spectrum like wardley fungus-ade. That mainly target external bacterial infections but does also handle white spot. Keep in mind columnaris reproduces far faster at temperatures above 24degreeC AND usually kills by rotting gill tissues. Really need to have high oxygenation to assist fish with damaged gills to get enough oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ageofaquariums Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Also, its highly likely the devil brought a nasty in with it could even be worth trying to get some closeup pics with a mobilephone microscope. Unlikey but could even be skin flukes. If you take another cassualty and you are up for it..... consider snipping away the gill cover and looking at the gills. If they are healthy and red, then that pretty much eliminates nitrite and columnaris as causes. Nitrites = brown gills. Columnaris = rotted away gills, no longer healthy red and feathery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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