tangka Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 hellorecently stripped some ochrogenys.i have placed the fry in a container in the main tank. they have been growing in there and have now lost their egg sacs.i have noticed twice now that when i have removed the lid to look at them and to feed them that some go in a spasm and die before hitting the bottom of the container. how can i feed them or observe them without having them freak out and die so suddenly?any help guys?Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalizer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Are you moving then inside that container ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangka Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 once i put my finger tips inside the water to feed them the other time i was just looking at them from above. They spasm like how a tadpole swims and die all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Tangka it may just be how you look but ............ sorry couldn't resistmake sure there is water movement in the fry save with the main tank wateras youngTang fry can be very succeptable to water conditions if there is notenough transfer of tank water into the fry saveralso consider putting some spawning moss in with them to give them a sence of coverChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalizer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yes, I was trying to get at what Link said.I mean movement of clean fresh water over the fry is highly important. Look at those 2 vids to see what I mean, see how the fry are moving all the time ? And they get fresh water from the main tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalizer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Wow, cool, it added the videos in the post hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Nodalizer by Tangka's post his fry are free swimming in a fry save so past the egg tumbling stageIMHO I think the eggs are tumbling too fast in the second vid and should be like the first vid as allyou need them to do is just move like in the mothers mouthChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalizer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 He said they only just lost there egg sacks. Meaning they shoulda been in one of these up until just now...And yeah I woulda thought a little too much movement, but the eggs are hatching .. so guess its working ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangka Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 They have been in a fry saver since head and tails with no problems. Just now when I go to feed them and place by finger tips into the water they spasm and die.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmosy Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Sounds like Sudden Shock Syndrome (also called various other things). Supposedly happens when fry dont get the right nutrients either from their mother (egg nutrients) or the food you are feeding them. Its pretty common in saltwater fish, particularly if fry aren't getting enough HUFA (Highly Unsaturated Fatty Acids).I've only experienced it once before with freshwater fish, had some LG6 whiptail fry die in the same manner, would get a fright, swim a little/ spasm, then die. I was feeding them brine shrimp nauplli so I enriched the nauplii with vitamins (Kent Marine Zoe if I remember correctly) and it seemed to solve the problem because it never happened again. It was also the first brood I ever had and it was just after I got the parents. I suspect the parents weren't too well fed. Thats why it pays to feed your brood stock with quality food, you may pay extra for the food but you'll get quality fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalizer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Had an idea for you.There is obviously openings in the fry keeper. Go buy a syringe from the chemist, and inject there food in through one of those openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daci Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 also have another idea for you- ditch the fries saver- ditch comercial made tumblerbuying list:- plastic strainer - 2 bucks- 2 foot tank - 20 bucks- 25w heater - 10 bucks- sponge filter - 10 bucks- air pump - 10 bucksall up: 50 bucksif you shop wisely, max 30 bucksthentumbling the eggs in the strainer say a week or twolike the one below: then let them outthen3 months latersell one and recover the lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangka Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Thanks guysGot them in a 2ft tank so should be hopefully good now.Will they be able to find food in a 2 ft tank now?Also I got a few more batches coming through, will they be ok if I placed them with this lot once they lose their egg sacs, or will the older fry kill them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianniz Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 it's an old thread but I know they are finicky fish.when I strip mine (after a month), this way they are fully formed and stronger. I used to dump it in the fry saver first but I don't do this anymore. I notice the ochrogenys won't eat their siblings, so the new frys are added to the main fry tank directly. I have had no casualty this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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