Foti Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 hello i purchased some rams some time ago sold to me as longfins but i beleive that they are german rams one larger than the other as they are ment to be a pair ! was wondering if someone could help me with directing me to a post/artical on these guys or just tell me what to look for regurding sexing and breeding i am keeping them in a 40 ltr tank with a L168 and 2 other fish "which im trying to also id" temp is 29 deg ph is 7 the tank has lost of plants"fake" bogwood and slate but is bare bottom would they spawn in this enviroment ? the other 2 fish look like a baracuda but they have like a snout, the botom of there mouth continues! were the top just stops normal and only the top half opens! i know very weird i try to get a pick if you guys are having trouble understanding me thank you foti, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 i have the pic in my photos can someone please tell me how to post it here ! thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkano78 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 looks like a gar of some kind but im unsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 thank you for that now i can do a search on these um how did you get the info to post the pic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefincomp Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 hi foti the fish in that pic is called a halfbeak and are livebearers like guppies . the family name is i think Hemirhamphidae hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 hi foti the fish in that pic is called a halfbeak and are livebearers like guppies . the family name is i think Hemirhamphidae hope this helps yes thank you any sugestions on experiances keeping them ? can i keep them with the above list "L168 rams"? and if anyone can sugest a profile or artical regurding rams once again thank you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priscacara Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 This is one of the sites I visited before getting a few for my tank, hope it helps. http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/cichlid/germanblueram.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 This is one of the sites I visited before getting a few for my tank, hope it helps. http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/cichlid/germanblueram.php yes and thank you it has helped me lucky you sent this i had done some searches and thort that i figured them out till i read that if black is presant on pelvic fins its not a male ? its really late to check now but i think il take some photos means moving alot of fake plant lol "the larger one had a pointy dorsal fin strong dot but it had black on anal fins ? i think i have to check again " once again thank you all for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 This is one of the sites I visited before getting a few for my tank, hope it helps. http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/cichlid/germanblueram.php yes and thank you it has helped me lucky you sent this i had done some searches and thort that i figured them out till i read that if black is presant on pelvic fins its not a male ? its really late to check now but i think il take some photos means moving alot of fake plant lol "the larger one had a pointy dorsal fin strong dot but it had black on anal fins ? i think i have to check again " once again thank you all for all your help I would not agree that the black on the oelvic is a good sex determination - in order the best IMO are - pink stomach (never on a male), spangles in black spot, overall shape. Constant line breeding has made telling the sex of some lines a real problem. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod54 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 A pair of Rams Rams are one of my favourites...... Gingerbeer's description is spot on... My advise.....if you see a tank of rams and have trouble sexing them....walk out and go to another shop. Quality Rams in Good condition will pair up in a LFS tank.....females will get pink bellies,males will be a little bit bigger....there will be no mistaking a pair If I find Good ones....I buy a pair....I bought the ones in the photo when I wasn't looking for rams....they caught my eye! My setup to breed Rams sand substrate plenty of live plants....java moss/java fern anubias........I also use duckweed....but this maybe too much maintenance for some real driftwood...I use snails to clean up uneaten food slate/flatstones to lay eggs on Soft water.....50% rainwater warm water.....28-30c Live food...black worms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEG-IT Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 @mrkano, better than you in MW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 some males show extended first few rays in the dorsal females show more spangles in the black body spot the anal fin on males will extend past the start of the tail (showing these traits in the pic above) but it is usually best to buy a group and let them pair off Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisshy Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 some males show extended first few rays in the dorsal females show more spangles in the black body spot the anal fin on males will extend past the start of the tail (showing these traits in the pic above) but it is usually best to buy a group and let them pair off Chris To Rod54 Thats a very nice pic of your rams they look awsome . do you have a blue light to help enhance there colour or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 all day today iv been converting some tanks to put them in on there own in a 600x450x450 sand "plastic plants" slate 2 rocks and a holow ceramic tree trunk il take pics tomorro to post but yes i have 1 male & 1 female the male has a longer point on its anal fin but the same as far as the front fins i do beleie that they are quality so please check this post tomoro would like to know if they are in your own opinon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 stuffed up the sand that i put with i guess small traces of coral that i trancfered from another tank so i had to take it out probably go bunings over thenext cupple days and get some i want to add live plants to there tank so should i lay some kind of soil down first ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxious_nasties Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 A pair of Rams Rams are one of my favourites...... Gingerbeer's description is spot on... My advise.....if you see a tank of rams and have trouble sexing them....walk out and go to another shop. Quality Rams in Good condition will pair up in a LFS tank.....females will get pink bellies,males will be a little bit bigger....there will be no mistaking a pair If I find Good ones....I buy a pair....I bought the ones in the photo when I wasn't looking for rams....they caught my eye! My setup to breed Rams sand substrate plenty of live plants....java moss/java fern anubias........I also use duckweed....but this maybe too much maintenance for some real driftwood...I use snails to clean up uneaten food slate/flatstones to lay eggs on Soft water.....50% rainwater warm water.....28-30c Live food...black worms Nice comments there Makes me want to get some rams and start trying to breed them... (if only there was space) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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