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Hi,

I have some very very gravid female albino shortfin bristlenose - they have been gravid for approximately 3 months or so. I would like to know if they drop there eggs in a months cycle or will they keep them inside of them? and what are the consequences of them not breeding? I have heard that this can lead to death is this so?

The reason why they are not breeding is a mystery to me, I have asked other breeders that have breed this with no troubles and for years. I have tried water 50% water changes no water changes everything under the sun and nothing has worked

Paramters

temp 25

pH 7

Kh 4

Tank the tank is a 45cm cubed tank has 1 piece of drift would with Anubis on it approx 10cm 5cm wide 5cm high. Gravel is of a dark brown color, there are two logs one is a bamboo log another is a terracotta log. Filtration there is an internal filter, a sponge filter and a hang-on filter. The water is always very clear. I do water changes once a week approx 20-30% normal temp same ph and kh. There is 1 albino shortfin male 10cm, 5 albino shortinfin females (all very gravid) 7-8cm, 1 calico female (gravid) 7cm, albino longfin male 9cm, 3 albino longfin females 7cm, 3 common longfin 7cm, 3 5cm peppermints.

I understand the tank is overstocked by my filtration more than covers it just strange that they are not breeding.

John

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Hi,

I have some very very gravid female albino shortfin bristlenose - they have been gravid for approximately 3 months or so. I would like to know if they drop there eggs in a months cycle or will they keep them inside of them? and what are the consequences of them not breeding? I have heard that this can lead to death is this so?

The reason why they are not breeding is a mystery to me, I have asked other breeders that have breed this with no troubles and for years. I have tried water 50% water changes no water changes everything under the sun and nothing has worked

Paramters

temp 25

pH 7

Kh 4

Tank the tank is a 45cm cubed tank has 1 piece of drift would with Anubis on it approx 10cm 5cm wide 5cm high. Gravel is of a dark brown color, there are two logs one is a bamboo log another is a terracotta log. Filtration there is an internal filter, a sponge filter and a hang-on filter. The water is always very clear. I do water changes once a week approx 20-30% normal temp same ph and kh. There is 1 albino shortfin male 10cm, 5 albino shortinfin females (all very gravid) 7-8cm, 1 calico female (gravid) 7cm, albino longfin male 9cm, 3 albino longfin females 7cm, 3 common longfin 7cm, 3 5cm peppermints.

I understand the tank is overstocked by my filtration more than covers it just strange that they are not breeding.

John

your tank is over stocked!

it is good that the water is kept in good nik but you can't expect them to breed easally.

if you choose to keep them all together and expect them to :dntknw: breed you could have a very good chance if you add another 5 or so casves minimum plus alot more hidding places!

once you place the caves and what ever else you choose to add for shelter eg tiles dont do more than 30% water change after 2 weeks then start daily water changes of 20% on the fourth or fifth day do a 40-50% water change with the water temp being 3-4deg lower "cooler" that whould give you some rigglers!

if not maybe you should think about getting

another tank ? too crouded

male? could be related "not always a problem"

male catfish do not share caves they will be too busy fighting off the males than thinking about breeding !

i wish you the best of luck first sporn is the hardest once it is out d way they dont stop lol

ps once they breed continue the water changes daily for a week then leave for every 3 days or so for about 3-4 weeks before you induce breeding with water change !

i hope this helps you

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I've been waiting for mine to start breeding too and thought there may have been something wrong or just too soon so was good to see your topic and pics. My female looks the same and was getting a bit worried something was wrong , I have her in with 1 male and 1 I just dont know the sex of yet. The female is the biggest of the 3 so might have to wait for the male to catch up in my case.

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I have always had problems with these fish lol

I really don't know what i am doing wrong in terms of breeding.

I have change the tank around added 3 more caves some rocks and some drift wood all witch i have cleaned. I will also be adding some more anubias and java furn. I took out all the fish left 1 male 3 female long fins all 8cm and 1 male (10-12cm) 3 female (8cm) standard albinos

but now i have a larger problem on my hand in the last 5 days i have lost 2 females 1 long fin and 1 standard albino 8cm each.

Nitrate 0 Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 pH same as before 7-7.5 Kh4

What could be the problem I have to admit I haven't done water changes as regularly as i would like normally i do them every 5-6 days now its every 10 days just to being busy with work and uni exams.

????????? :dntknw::dntknw::dntknw:

I am so close to giving up on these :cryblow:

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im very sorry about your loss

what did you use to clean things ? any cemicals ?

its not your water changing if all reading are normal ?

have you seen any fighting ?

maybe heater

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im very sorry about your loss

what did you use to clean things ? any cemicals ?

its not your water changing if all reading are normal ?

have you seen any fighting ?

maybe heater

Temp is at 23-25

to clean i used boiling water

when i complete water changes the water is same Kh Ph and temp as tank

Havent seen any fighting with the males but is see females sometimes pushing each other around but not exact fighting

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Seems weird that your loosing bristlenose in a tank by themselves. I have only lost two over the last 18months. Was was old and the other don't know came home one day at its guts were opened up.

I guess with a smaller tank like that water changes would be necessary. I used to allow two weeks for mine and that was in a albino and common shared tank. At least 20 adults and always had fry in there. The driftwood would help as bristlenose like a bit lower ph level. Plus gives them places to hide.

It sounds weird that your loosing a lot.

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Try upping temp for a few (5 days ) 26/27, do water change with 23/24 dec water.

Every 2 weeks is fine for water change as long as your siphon off the poo.

Plenty food/Veg, 7/8cm is as young as they breed, but age is the main thing.

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I have increased the tempreture of the tank which is now sitting on around 27

I have started feeding them more vegies i used a potateo piller and sliced some carrots and lettice which they havent touched as of yet Have to go out and get some zuchini

I have started 5-10% water change every day which today is the 3rd day to see if anything breeding will be stimulated

John

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I have increased the tempreture of the tank which is now sitting on around 27

I have started feeding them more vegies i used a potateo piller and sliced some carrots and lettice which they havent touched as of yet Have to go out and get some zuchini

I have started 5-10% water change every day which today is the 3rd day to see if anything breeding will be stimulated

John

gr8 advice by dobbin4 to increase temp day water changes are important and is good that you are doing them it will take 2 weeks of daily wc before they well breed for you i would ay in 7 days from today do a large 50 % water change and then wait for every second day wc

food= feed zuchini and lettuce and cichlid nls or other protin foods like shrimp

most important if you do all of this try not to disturb them in the process let them be plus dont turn there lights on

thiese will be breeding for the first time once they breed let them be aswell it wont stop after that

good luck

p.s my male is out of his cave for only 1 week before he is back in there fanning his first sporn was set off with that exact method !

now i do water changes every week feed every second day yet he is in his cave a week or 2 fanning away!

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Just noticed one of the albino long fins looks a bit payle not the normal orange albino color more white than usual. Is this normal cause I have never noticed this color. Saying that I have noticed some of the albino females getting very dark orange is this a sign that they may breed????

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Just noticed one of the albino long fins looks a bit payle not the normal orange albino color more white than usual. Is this normal cause I have never noticed this color. Saying that I have noticed some of the albino females getting very dark orange is this a sign that they may breed????

Have you checked your fish for camalanus worm. Females are more prone to get them. It would explain the deaths. If no sign of worm you may have an internal bacterial infection. Usually when they go pale they are sick.

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These are the pics of the dead female cant find anything wrong

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This is what I meant by pale female Not sure if there is something wrong (she is alive)

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The tank now has 1 male 1 cave 4 females I have moved the rest of the long fins due to fear of loosing the rest

John

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How many breeding logs you got in there and is the male fanning away in there yet. If nothing happens try another male its a pain in the buM but like growing up in Darwin chicks had there choice of guys up there 3 to 1 and well you had to have either the gift of the gab or be bit of stud to take a chick home.

My colonies had quite a few males and alot of females in each. Normally best to carry more females but I guess give it a go, if your loosing females for no reason better try something different. Mine weren't breeding I knew I had alot of females in my commons colony so I went to a wholesaler and they sold males common and albinos for 30-40 bucks so I bought one of each and bang it was rabbit season.

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i have taken all the gravel from the tank and left it bare bottom, i have treated the tank with avitrol, i have completed a gravel clean, i have medicated also the food which they have been eating so it can go inside there intestinal tract. I hope this works

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