Willy Wombat Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Hey guys - trying to do a fishless cycle at the moment. Just wondering if you can use the product you get in the shops called cloudy ammonia. It is important for the cycle to be effective that there are no extra dyes or perfumes added to the bottle. Some of them are flouro yellow, so i wont use them. I got one bottle that is a white colour (pearly) and only lists ammonia (NH4+) in its ingrtedient list. Does anyone know if there are any inherant problems with this substance though? Have checked the forum FAQ's but this topic was not covered in fishless cycling section. Cheers WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I dunno about "cloudy ammonia" but i just use some "Cycle" or "Geo Liquid" wazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sab Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I had great success with established filter squeezings and a product called "Bio Start" better IMHO than Cycle. Important to have a bacteria colony to add to the tank first though. My cichlid tank = 180litre 4 foot tank - squeezed the sponge filter every day in the new tank (crude and all) and added a teaspoon or two of Bio Start (jut read the back of the pack). Tank was cycled in 7 days! Never had ammonia or nitrite since! HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wombat Posted January 13, 2004 Author Share Posted January 13, 2004 Almost sounds too good to be true Sab! Anyway - im still after an answer on the cloudy ammonia??? Anyone used it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalyst Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Definatly NO Extract from Webpage If it doesn't list the ingredients, or say Clear Ammonia (or Pure Ammonia or 100% Ammonia, or Pure Ammonium Hydroxide), then leave it on the shelf and look elsewhere. Shake the bottle if you're not sure about it... ammonia with surfactants will foam, while good ammonia will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 im going to use a product called Amtrite Down in a tank im setting up , it seems to be popular here and chosen over Cycle any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wombat Posted January 13, 2004 Author Share Posted January 13, 2004 Mmm thanks for that info catalyst. Looks like i will have to give bunnings a call. Use the cloudy ammonia on the kitchen floor next time i get mopping duty! Or perhaps i should just drop a dead prawn in the tank and hope it doesnt stink too bad? WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I use sera nitrivec and find this very successful. I agree with catalyst that if it goes foamy when you shake it, then it is not pure ammonia. merjo ps dead prawns work too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHL Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I assume you have fish food at hand? Just pulverise some, and drop that in; it's just unprocessed fish poop, which is what you are after anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalyst Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I always cycle with a couple of goldfish they seem to take it well, I also squeeze a filter from another Tank this way my cycle only takes about 2 weeks, If you dont have another tank ask your LFS to give you a filter squeese from one of their tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 ....or move some substrate from an established tank into the one you are cycling. merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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