Ducksta Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 My sister has just moved - before her old dam had a chance to be fished after I stocked it Anyway, the difference here is the dam is a clean slate, no fish life at all. Last time I had to work around gambusia and a couple of large koi which I couldnt fish out. SO I want to start with a self sustaining population (or 2) of small native fishes. Predominantly to provide food for the species I introduce later, but keeping insect populations down is a plus. So what is native to the area and will thrive? I am tempted to drag nets through the very nearby river and just bring home whatever it may be, juvie bass and perch included. But I would ideally like to introduce small species first, to ensure a successful long term fishing hole SO maybe a species of rainbow, blue eye, gudgeon? Anybody know local wholesale sources for any of the species? Or maybe a sponsor would help me out here? (Possible long term cheaper supply from my end if they breed effectively there?) Otherwise I will just use what I net from the reeds in the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Here is a list of the smaller native species that are endemic to the Sydney Region. Pacific Blue-eye Pseudomugil signifer size: 3-5cm Tadpole Friendly* Australian Smelt Retropinna semoni size: 5-6cm Tadpole Friendly Glass Perchlet Ambassis marianus size: 6cm Mountain Jollytail Galaxias olidus size: 6-8cm Dwarf Flathead Gudgeon Philypnodon sp. Size: 3.5-4cm Empire Gudgeon Hypseleotris compressa size: to 12cm Firetail Gudgeon Hypseleotris galii size: 4-5cm Tadpole Friendly Striped Gudgeon Gobiomorphus australis size: 12cm Cox's Gudgeon Gobiomorphus coxii Size 15cm Flathead Gudgeon Philypnodon grandiceps size: 8cm The Australia and New Guinea Fishes Association may be able to put you in contact with someone that stocks these fish. http://www.angfa.org.au/frames.html Bayfish have a number of these species on their stocklist. So your LFS may be able to order them in as an alternative. There are also a number of medium to large fish that are also endemic to the area. Gerard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted February 15, 2005 Author Share Posted February 15, 2005 Funny actually,. after posting this, Gav introduced me to a guy at work who worked on an aquaculture farm type thing. He had the very same idea as me for the dam (bass fishing) I think I will get hold of a small species of gudgeon also. Anybody know if any of those gudgeon species would be safe to not hybridise in a closed system? I figure its just as possible as mixing similar cichlids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Depending on the size of the dam silver perch may be a better option than bass. Gerard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbunaman Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 mate if i were you i would stock the bass,give it 2 years and you could be hauling in 1kg thumpers if well fed..perch tend to shy away in small dams where as thumper bass will smash anything on the surface on a warm sunny afternoon..you should stock it with river guppies for a good food source for the bass.smelt's are also good but they are a litle more fragile than the ever breeding bush guppy.if only council would approve my dam for a surburban backyard i would be set.good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Ducksta If you want some yabbies for the dam let me know as I sure the school can provide you with some breeders. Gerard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I might be able to help you out with some bass. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarTerror Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 we stock my gf's parents dam with empire gudgeons from the local creek (also (usually sold as small feeder fish for around $5 per 20 fish from aquariums) together with lots of shrimp and whatever else we got fromt he local areas, we left it for a few months and later introduced some bass and silver pearch, they're doing fine and every couple of months i will do another trip for more feeders though it does appear to be self-sustaining at the moment and the bass and peach are fairly plump which is a good sign EDIT - forgot to add we also stock redclaw in there that I have been breeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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