Wilsta the problem with the Surinamensoid types is that unless you are serious about keeping locale labeled and separate it all turns to crap like Aulonacara get to, but at least Aulonacara can be imported and cleaned up the industry in a lot cases from wholesaler to LFS are useless at even getting a latin name on the tanks, seriously "Red Horseface" was fine when there was only one species and could be sorted when we had only 2 species as the Black throat Brachybrancus were easy to identify but when the flood gates opened and novices and newbs bought them with no education about keeping locales labelled and separate and then started breeding them thinking $$$ the fate was doomed and shows that now when trying to find what varients we still have that are true to type this happens in most countries I would think but our import restrictions for these will end badly in what we end up being left with unless there are still specialist Geo keepers still out there but with more people getting out of big tanks and large fishrooms doubt in purity of species will be the end result I can see similar happening to Frontosa in the not to distant future when prices lower for the newer varients and the general population start buying them with out any education on keeping species true stepping down from the soap box rant over Chris