Guy Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hi everyone,I have a 3 foot x 2 foot x 2 1/2 foot tank with frontosa's and lion head cichlid fry. This is the second batch of frontosa's I have lost. Tank has been cycling for about 6 months. I clean the filter every 6 to 8 weeks with tank water.The fish seem to be gasping for air and sitting on the bottom of the tank before they die. I change the water every second week. I use seachem cichlid lake salt with every water change. I use prime water conditioner. Water temp 27 degrees. Tank has air pump. Aquaone 2400 canister filter.Frontosa's only fish that seem to be affected catfish and lion head cichlids are all doing fineI have a second tank 5 foot that has yellows, blues, white knights, peacocks, and dolphin fish that I clean and maintain the same way. This tank has been running for about 2 yearsCould any one have any ideasI have read a lot of the articles I think I am doing the write thingThe only thing I can think of is that I put the prime water conditioner in after I have changed the water. Should I add it to each bucket of water before I put it in the tank?Some help would be appreciated as I would like to try again but hesitant until I work out why they are dying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 How big are these frontosa you start out with ??What food are you feeding ??Do they they fall sick after a filter clean or does it seem more random ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 4 to 5cmfed on New Life SpectrumThe last couple died within 2 days of a 25% water change. I have 1 survivor who is breathing heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinf Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 The way you put the prime in could be the problem ...I wouldn't do that plus 27° is pretty hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Small frontosa can be quite touchy at these small sizes.From experience in breeding them,,, they are fairly easily over fed.If you try them again,,, try feeding every second day till they hit 6-7 cm.25% water change shouldn't effect them.But do ammonia tests on your tap water.Maybe back of on filter cleans to,,, with small fish and bio load the filter should go 3 times longer minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Thanks guys I will try again as you know it is addictive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intangcity Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 i noticed you didnt say anything about buffing the water whats the ph gh kh in the adult fronny tank or are they mixed in with malawi in the 5 ft.whats the ph coming from your tap compared to your tank?kh readings gh readings ? are the fry coming from a high oxygenated tank to a less oxygenated tank?many questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 PH 7.6 to 7.8 GH 250.6KH 53Sorry I took a while to get back to you I had to buy KH & GH test kit. I purchased the fry, if anything i have more oxygen pumping through my tank than where I purchased them from. Looks like I need to use a buffer to raise the KH level.Would this be the reason why I lost them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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