cooder Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 ... for Dicrossus maculatus!Labyrinth said there were some floating around recently. (correction: swimming, i would hope!! ) but they haven't replied for a number of weeks, so not sure how thats going.Jodi lea said she isnt getting anymore in because of too few sales, but ill see if i can convince her when she is making an order next, if she has access to some.Ive also contacted Smiths and they seem clueless aswell... So the question is, has anyone seen or heard of them available recently? Wild caught specimens would be ideal, but i dont even know if they are importable. I get the feeling they arent because of size restrictions. even if they were they probably wouldnt be reliably macs, most likely filamentosus.Known sources would be extremely appreciated!!Cheers,Cody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 They are on the import list but with a stipulated minimum lengths of 5cm. It makes it tough when this is close to the maximum length of 5.3 cm for males and 6.0 cm for females. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yeh i was looking at a request for amendment of some of the size restriction rules. Lets hope something is done. does anyone know of any reading material i can look at to help with identification within the dicrossus genus? when i find some i want to try to make sure they are the right species lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The best way is to use a scientific key. Key to species of Dicrossus1a. A single row of 5-6 blotches along middle of side .............................................................. 21b. Two parallel horizontal rows of small dark spots or several narrow dark vertical bars along middle of side .............................................. 42a. Five blotches along middle of side, 12-13 pec- toral-fin rays, caudal fin in males lanceolate with middle rays longest ........... D. maculatus 2b. Five or 6 blotches along middle of side, 10-11 pectoral-fin rays, caudal fin in males with prolonged rays in dorsal and ventral lobes, or only in dorsal lobe ............................................... 3 3a. Caudal fin in males with prolonged rays in dorsal lobe..................................... D. gladicauda 3b. Caudal fin in males lyreate with prolonged rays in both dorsal and ventral lobes ..................... ..................... D. filamentosus 4a. Two parallel rows of elongate blotches along middle of side.................................D. warzeli 4b. Anterior side with narrow vertical bars, or two parallel rows of small round blotches, usually grouped in pairs .............. D. foirni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Have a read of this article. It is technical but worth the read. http://www.aqua-aquapress.com/pdf/17-2_Dicrossus-foirni.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Cheers for the good info Ged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Shoot Killiguy an email. He may be able to point you in the right direction as he tends to have a finger on the pulse for some of these rarer species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiguy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Ive never seen one in the flesh,but Ive asked Glen Briggs from AI whether they can try.I'll keep an eye for you down here in Vic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiguy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 This is Glenns reply:Regarding D.maculatus, I've seen them imported maybe 2-3 times in 10+ years! in the past they were hard to import because the min import size was 5cm TL (and when rarely available, most specimens offered would usually be too small. A while back the interpretation of min size for certain fish species was changed from TL to SL (standard length), which makes it even harder (nigh on impossible) to get maculatus.Current size restriction is below plus link to full import list.Dicrossus maculatus of minimum length 5 cm SL (http://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/pages/d8bf16ca-362b-4e6d-9144-4b71770bd6b6/files/live-import-list_2.pdf)Regards GlennPs maculatus are expensive, usually 5-6 times the price of filamentosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Japes had them at one stage in a biotype setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Yeh he got rid of them a while back and is banned from QLDAF so i cant contact him, and is inactive on this forum i believe.Is importing from Germany or similar a doable option or do you have to have expensive licensing and facilities for quarantine and inspection...If it was doable it would be extremely eexpensive i know for sure... wouldn't be worth doing it unless other people were keen to try to start breeding these as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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