superbad0417 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 These were traded for some stuff i had as a certain breed and sex but after much research im not exactly sure they are what i was told, so i wanna know what you think they are and what sex ?? I know this is a definite male but not so sure about the smaller one. 11cm + Underbelly shot of the large male 7 cm + ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbish84 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 they are orange spot bn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbad0417 Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 do you think male or female on the bottom ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbish84 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 i think it could be a female but it is hard to tell because of photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbad0417 Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 i will take a better photo and upload it tonight, should i take a closer photo of the head ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbish84 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 yeah and if there are no bristles on the head it will be a female the ones on the lip is ok as all my females have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Hi Fellow Five Dockian lol there definitely orange spots the female is a lil small for breeding had mine breed the first time for me last month but the male kicked out the eggs, around once the female is 8-9cm female they will start to breed. What else do you have in the tank, Mine were in a grow out with some Africans i moved them away and they were alot happier afterwords. keep them separated and make sure were the cave is place wood ontop so there is a shadow at least 5cm before the entrance of the cave. cheers john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 imo its a young male ! females get bristles mainly when there much larger females body shape are wider when you take new photo take a side shot of the head just to see if bristles go up the head or not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbad0417 Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 no worries guys ill get the photos up tonight, cheers for the info intern i have them in a 3.5 ft growout tank with about 40 orange head geo's. should i get a piece of driftwood and place it over the top of the cave ? what caves did you use for your orange spots ? atm im using a slate cave i got from a guy on the old pleco fanatics.... any other tips ?? what would they be worth ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 i find them in regards to breeding finiky like peps because they are very similar to them in regards to species wise. I gave them coverage such as driftwood because of the fact of there behavior which made them feel alot more at home. I used your standard log that you can get from Sloany on the forums here. I have noticed with breading bristlenose the tighter the cave the better. Have the cave be the size the the male will just fit in you dont want gaps that if the female does get in it can get out. thats the problem with the slate caves although some L breeders swear by them. They dont breed the same size as other ancestrus i.e bristlnose common longfins albinos ect like i said closer related to peps so give them time and they will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbad0417 Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 hey guys i got these photos tonight, sorry about the quality but best i could do. this is the smaller of the 2. it only has small bristles around the front of the lip none going on to the head.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathobes Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I agree with foti, looks like a male. Has a skinnier body and has got bristles at 7cm. Signs of a male. Females are wider and don't develop bristles until larger than that. That's my experience anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbish84 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 yeah that is a male Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbad0417 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Share Posted August 25, 2010 ok guys thanks for the help it looks like i have 2 males, 1 at 11cm and 1 at about 7.5 cm. can anyone give me a rough idea of what each one would be worth or let me know where to get a couple of females. cheers and thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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