shannon Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 after a short lay off from fish due to relationship factors which thank god dont exist anymore. im seeking opinions on which way to go on my return. option 1: 4x2x2 stocked with 3 ellioti 1m 2f and 4 possibly 5 satanoperca leucosticta hoping for 2m3f with some sterbai corys and some larger tetras taking up the upper tank. option2: 4x2x2 open plan tank with sand a couple of boulders and possibly 3 or 4 shells. 4 gold comps 2m 2f , 4 f1 mpimbwe 1m 3f or 7 bar frontosas 1m 3f, a pair of spilopterus, a pair of vittatus and 4 very juvenile ventralis chaitika 1m 3f. also almost all of the tangs will be getting bought from st george so just out of curiousity i'd like to know who supplied them with their gold comps (stunning) just so i know which lines to avoid in the future. if you arent comfortable saying it in the open forum could you please pm me? as i have also seen great golds at campbelltown and would like to know if they are related. the tank is very well filtered so waste wont be an issue. any advice on stocking please throw your 2 cents in. shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannon Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 G'day Shannon, The Tang option sounds good, but might perhaps need a bigger tank than 4 x 2 x 2. Out of those two, I truly like the 1st option - it will look absolutely amazing and that mix of fish should get on beautifully! Well thought out! Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannon Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 G'day Shannon, The Tang option sounds good, but might perhaps need a bigger tank than 4 x 2 x 2. Out of those two, I truly like the 1st option - it will look absolutely amazing and that mix of fish should get on beautifully! Well thought out! Andrew. i would forego the ventralis in the tang tank. do u think a 4x2x2 would be big enough then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsx Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Both options have fish that are too big for your tank size. Satanoperca Leucosticta - 30cm Any Frontosa - 30cm Much too large. From memory the ventralis like more swimming space, but I'm not 100% sure. Cheers Mark~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpa Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 option 2 sounds good you can get away with it when they are juvenile but as they grow might be best to maybe get a bigger setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannon Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 from what i have seen from some breeders i think 4 frontosa would be fine in a 4x2x2. But thats just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsx Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Sure you could cram a 4ft Arowana into a 4fter doesn't mean its right. Obviously you could keep the fronty's in a 4ft when young, but they do get to 30cm so depends if you want to upgrade or not. Not to mention you want to add a bunch of other fish, the spilo's would be eaten by a full grown frontosa too. But you may do as you like. Cheers Mark~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannon Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Sure you could cram a 4ft Arowana into a 4fter doesn't mean its right. Obviously you could keep the fronty's in a 4ft when young, but they do get to 30cm so depends if you want to upgrade or not. Not to mention you want to add a bunch of other fish, the spilo's would be eaten by a full grown frontosa too. But you may do as you like. Cheers Mark~ are there any sandsifters that get big enough not to be eaten by frontosa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsx Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 only Enantiopus, they will grow to around 20cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannon Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 they are abit hard to get a hold of though arent they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkesg Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I wouldn't put any sandsifter in with fronts. Sandsifters are best keep in species or with 1-2 other gentle species, cyp's or paracyp's. I also wouldn't keep comps with vittatus as they both use shells. I'd reduce the number of species and just keep it simple. You'll get more breeding success that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Shannon it's good your back into fish keeping and it sucks that it was your mrs doing that you got out of it im still kicking my self that i didnt buy your set up ! was actually telling my cusin last night how dumb he was for not getting it lol anyway il go tangs with everything you said if that is what you wany as they are going to be young it wont be a problem! it is only going to be a disply! if and when they get to breeding age i would sugest a close eye on them and sell a group off if they start to fight! i dont believe that they will aslong as you set it up the right way with different sections for each then dont move it around IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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