Ant Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 My e-blue has developed an ulcer (will probably be fatal) behaind her ventral on one side. It was like a lump or a pimple, i read another post about a similar condition but they had multipe lumps. Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Anthony you could add some salt to the water 1tsp per 10 litres or there is some other stuff i cant think of the name but it smells like teatree oil its a good antiseptic and safe to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panga Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Anthony , i think the stuff Sarah is talking about that you need is melafix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest big bad burundi Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 When i was starting out with fish i had no internet,i read these strange things we called books. Reading these things i found much information about all my questions and then some. Much info given via fish forums world wide is of little help,if they dont know all there is needed to know to answer question correctly. Sure with an ulcer melafix may work ,but how or why did they ulcer develope in first place should be your priority in my mind.This way it wont happen again as apposed to hit or miss medicating a problem fish or tank. Just food for thought and simply only my opinion also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted February 8, 2004 Author Share Posted February 8, 2004 those things you call books are not affordable by a poor uni student Now we do have the internet, infact it was the internet that sparked my intrest , i have learnt everything i know over the internet by asking question to more experienced fish keepers like your self . This is the way (I!!) work, it definately saves my fish from dieing buy avoiding problems that others have experienced. This is simply the way i work, others like yourself have a different way of aquiring information. I am thankfull for any information others pass on to me,especially your self Daryll as you helped me out when i first started. (no im not sucking up, im stating a fact)and i'm happy also to pass on information as it (cichlid keeping) is a legasy that I, you, and others value. I should have mentioned that this fish was a new occupant to the tank she is also one of the smaller fish in the tank so i think that it could have been pure stress that triggered her illness. The water conditions are perfect so it could not be that. I however did not mention this (the cause) as i already know what possably triggered her illness. Feel free to question my opinion but it stands as is Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest big bad burundi Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 They also had these big buildings they call libary's, books cost nothing to borrow there buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E4G13M4N Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Just on the melafix side of things yes it will help to heal a open wound, wether it an ulcer or TB wounds, but it wont cure the cause of the problem.. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted February 8, 2004 Author Share Posted February 8, 2004 Thanks Mark , daz tell me, where is a library that stocks books with information that I can get from a forum??? (not a dig at ya, it's a serious question) anyways i don't think you got my point, ill do things my way, you do them yours, not that your way is wrong, but its not my way . Another serious question, would you have used the internet if it was around when you started?? Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anita_ozfish Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi Ant, Is this ulcer on her right hand side by any chance? Around the gut area???? If so, she may still come good if you can isolate her and dose her with Melafix and rock salt as already suggested. What I am talking about is thought to be a gram negative bacteria and a fish is salvageable even if it looks like a gonner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 it sure is on her right hand side, not that fish have hands of course, so perhaps on her right fin side...lol. thanks Anita she is still alive so ill catch her today and dose her with melifix (if i can find some). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 How is she now??? Still around? Any improvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 I have to wait untill payday to get melafix, she is still alive but no real improvement. Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 even if u can';t afford melafix now, I would still seperate her and add the recommended dose of sea salt. This is really useful in cleaning the wound and preventing it spreading further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Unfortunately she died today, her little frind is also pretty crook now. I just bit the bullet and got some melifix. I dosed the whole tank once and i plan on separating her tommorow and treating her separately. When i separate her is it just the normal dose of melifix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wombat Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 AAnt - WRT the cause of your problem - it is very difficult to say without seeing any pictures. However here is a little bit of knowledge for you. Lumps that turn into ulcers can be caused by a number of things. Here are some points for you to consider. Lumps can be caused by: - swelling in response to something that should not be there - eg parasites, or splinters - swelling in response to a bacterial infection - swelling in response to a fungal infection - cancer - other non cancerous tumours - some viruses - other things? Lumps can be filled with fluid, or they may be extra tissue growths or may be cuased by the presence of the parasites/forreign bodies themselves. Ulcers are a bit easier to understand, as they are usually caused by Fungi infections, and/or bacterial infections of the skin. If i had to guess i would say it was either a parasite, a bacterial infection or a fungal infection, (or a combination of these factors). In this case it looks like the lump popped and the region around it became infected by other organisms that were in your tank. Sorry to hear about your fishy dying. Without looking at it under the microscope it is going to be pretty hard to diagnose the problem on the informtation you have given us. Further reading? This may be interesting Its a report that concerns a kind of bacteria that is known to cause lumps which burst and then become ulcers. I have not heard of this bacteria being a problem in your species fo fish but it is a big problem in trout, salmon, carp and goldfish. Please note that its possible that a number of species of bacteria could have caused this kind of problem. Best of luck with it all - melafix is a good product for treating ulcers. WW PS: If you want to avoid getting into flame wars with people - just dont respond to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks that was a very comprehensive post. Anthony I dont mind getting into arguements, i like to get my point across, i feel i should say what i think rather than say nothing, and if that causes an arguement so be it. I dont take anything serious that occurs over the net, if it occured in person then i will take it seriously. After all some people tend to have a duel (net/reality) personality, if i dont know a person in reality I cant judge there personality by what I see over the net, even if there are a real prick over the net (not targeting anyone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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