hungsta Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 No debates please. Are the nutrients (vitamins, colour enhancers) exactly the same except for the protein and fat component? I.e. would the growth formula be less nutritious to compensate for the increase in protein? Any comments?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 All I know is the ingredients are the same but the proportions vary, so yeah there would be less of something else to allow the inclusion of more protein & fat - exactly what the diff is though I have no idea. you could ask Pablo on his forum I suppose? Can't remember the url, google will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungsta Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 Thanks i'm googling for it atm... Also any personal comments on the use of the Grow Formula is apprecciated. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 umm, my fry eat it & do fine. less messy than crushed flake, easier than bbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrdog Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I feed it to my Tropheus fry. They go good with it . When they are big enough to take the Cichlid Formula they get fed that. Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 How about compared to the normal Cichlid Formula? My fry get fed grinded cichlid formula and was recently pondering over whether i should try out the growth formula, but only if theres a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoliroMan Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 what i understand is the grow formula has a greater protein content than the CF so it potentially results in faster growth rates (hence its name) than the normal CF. My T fry also luv the stuff and have been growing nicely on it! Also i don't need to grind up the grow formula but i guess for smaller fry u may need to? hth DAve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungsta Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 Looked at a few topics on the NLS forum. What Ash said is pretty much it. The ingredients are pretty much the same, but the proportion is not disclosed to the public. Does anyone notice the faster growth rate as compared to the cichlid formula? Is it a noticable difference? Also, is colour of the fish affected? If the results are pretty much the same, i might go with the cichlid formula and grind it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwards Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'm not sure if it was the addition of new food or just a coincidence, but after starting my little Tropheus on the Grow formula this week (Thursday evening) I have noticed a marked increase in the number of fish showing more colour and also noticed that some are starting to occasion get around without they juvenile stripes showing. There are too many variables to say for sure, and I don't have any sort of control to say whether it's the new food or not, but it seems like a hell of a coincidence! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Shouldn't have posted that Jon, the haters will be here any moment now... I haven't tried ground normal vs grow. I actually have grow, Thera+A & normal on hand so probably should try it some time along with crushed flake or something - not enough tanks/fry though. I mean I could do it with american fry, but then I'd have to cull them all after it as I'd never find them all a home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwards Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It could have just been the timing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuong Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I've found the Growth formula to be effective in feeding fry. It's just the right size for little catfish and I've noticed faster growth rates compared to the cheap protein pellet crumble I used to feed. I'm unsure about how it would compare to the other brand name fry food but I'd think there wouldn't be much between them. However it's working for me and I have no plans on switching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waruna Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Are the nutrients (vitamins, colour enhancers) exactly the same except for the protein and fat component? Hi hungsta, Hope this helps. http://www.newlife.ipbhost.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19 I.e. would the growth formula be less nutritious to compensate for the increase in protein? It is a complete/perfect food for fry, therefore it contains everything what your fry/juvies need. Two weeks ago I sold 120 N. venustus babies (two mouth fulls) to Vebas here in WA, from the day they were spat out, it took me 8 weeks to bring them to 3.5cm. I fed them NLS Grow from the first day, I did feed them more than I would normally. I was in a hurry to get rid of them so I can get my Ilangi and Petros. Here’s a pic of my male venustus, sorry about the quality of the photo, he ate NLS exclusively for over three and a half years, and of course occasionally his own children , he was 11 inches long and an over an inch thick. Dave posted this some time ago and thought you would be interested to see this thread: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=110975 HTH Waruna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoliroMan Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 hungsta....the proportions are clearly written on the container - GF 50% protein and 9% fat. I think the CF is 30% Ptn and 6% fat, can't remember for sure. The extra protein/fat is what makes them grow so much quicker!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malrift Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 My personal opinion is that it is a great food and mine start from day one once they hit 4cm I swap over to cf so no probs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OziOscar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm using the growth formula for some fronty Kigoma 7 bar I picked up a couple of weeks ago. They didn't want to know about the Hikari product I normally use as they had been raised on the NLS Growth product. They're showing a little blue in their pectoral fins already and appear to have put on about 20% average length (eyeball estimate only, my missus thinks it's more like 30%), in the biggest and best ones. There are of course 'weaklings' for want of a better word (less aggressive in some cases, comparatively poorer shape and markings) who aren't feeding as aggressively and aren't showing as much size gain. As it's hormone free according to the packaging, I think I will run out my Hikari and Sera stocks and change brands progressively (I ran out my Wardley's and Nutrafin specialist items for similar reasons some years ago). The cost is higher, but the results seem to be pretty decent so far. Love to hear anyone else's experiences with more species. Cheers - OziOscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD. Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Are the nutrients (vitamins, colour enhancers) exactly the same except for the protein and fat component? I.e. would the growth formula be less nutritious to compensate for the increase in protein? Less nutritious, absolutely not, less color enhancing properties, again, no. If anything you will see much better colors early on, compared to other commercial foods that are designed for fry. The reason for increased protein & fat content in a fry formula is that fry have higher metabolisms, so their energy intake must be greater than a formula designed for adult fish, if you want optimum growth. If you go cheap on the fat content, the fry will utilize protein as an energy source, which is never a good thing when fish are still in the growth stage. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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