grungefreek Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Hi Guys, Well my betta has had some form of fin rot (i guess thats what it is) for about the past 6 months, heres the methods ive tried to cure it.1. Salt in Tank2. melafix3. Multicure4. Mercurochrome5. Keep tank very cleanSo far nothing works. Here are the symptoms.I trim the fins back so they look normal again. Within a little bit of time, the colour starts to be removed from the fins, like someone has dipped the ends in bleach. Then the fins slowly start being eaten away.Sometimes the fins just lose the colour but dont actually get eaten away. He has had this condition for most the year now and it is really annoying me. My next option i thought would have to be one of those waterlife medications, myaxcin or similar i think its called.But any other opinions on a good med to use to treat this, possibly cheap, would be excellent. I want to buy a nice SD or HM but if i cant keep a veil looking good, i aint gonna buy anything more expensive.Ok thanx alot guysGrungiep.s. His tank is a 17L set at 25 c with an air operated corner filter, a plant and no other occupants. Tank has been established for 6 months, no other parameters avaliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E4G13M4N Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Do the fins get what look like tiny little knots in them ??If so nothing ive tried will fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungefreek Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 Hi Nope no knots, just ends of fins that looked like they have been bleached, with a small amount of rotting.Grungie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Myxazin doesnt seem to have any effect, it hurts the fish more than the infection.Did this fish come from Monaco? or in a chinese food container? There is a bacterial strain coming thru that has taken out 4 of 7 of my fish that i bought from there, and out of the remaining 3, 2 of them are ill. My problem looks white and i suppose... shrivelled? like melted nylon rope? its hard to explain.Get a hold of tetracycline tablets (aquarium science makes them, check with your LFS for individual ones) and some egg white.crush the TC and use the egg white to coat your normal betta food *lightly*roll the pellets in the TC powder and store in an airtight container in a dark place. feed daily. They *should* accept it, but if not (and trial one first while you are making them, making sure its dinnertime and its unfed) add in some bloodworms to the crushed TC to mask the flavour.They refuse TriSulfa, its too bitter.SO FAR this is the only thing i have found that will halt this bug, but its not a long term fix either. I am losing about 1mm/2 months... maybe more of one of my boys. Furan2 is supposed to be the be all and end all, but you cant buy it over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungefreek Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 Well i tried to take a photo of him so you could see what the fins look like, but i couldnt for the life of me get the damn camera ($750 digital) to focus on the fin to get a clear picture . Well i have seen what your talking about, shrivelled fins, but mines different. Apparently to cure that problem, you should put your betta in the sun for a while, thats just what the people on the ABB recommended for that shrivelling. Yeah but as i said, mine doesnt look like burnt nylon rope. The fins are normal colour near the body, then they have an off colour section where the infection is progressing, then at the ends the fins a clear, absent of all colour.Furan 2 caspules you reckon. Well a girl from brisbane got those capsules from her local pet shop, so they are around. May have to run a search and see if any are around here.Um my fish, well my fish came from crossroads aquarium in Newcastle (i like this shop). He was swimming fine in the tank and was fine for 3 or 4 months before he got a bad case of fin rot cause my GF didnt change his water while i was away. And from then on, he has just never got rid of it fully.Ok well any more suggestions in cures would be appeciated, i want his long flowing fins back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E4G13M4N Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 There is still some old stock of furan 2 Pot luck as to which LFS still has some left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmiccreepers Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Perhaps the 'clear fins' and 'off colour section' is actually fin regrowth? I know when one of mine was growing back his tail after a fungus infection it grew back as you are discribing. But once it was fully grown it was back to normal colour.Cheers, Cassandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I tried the sun thing. Didnt work for mine. Whatever you have i'm glad its not what i have, very soon my DLt wont have a tail to speak of And clear can be regrowth, providing there isnt rot in front of it.And if ANYONE in Sydney has Furan 2 or knows where some resides, please let me know, i'm at my wits end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Most fin rots are symptomatic of poorer water quality.Can you give some info on the ammonia/nitrite/phospate/nitrate levels in the tank?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungefreek Posted November 27, 2003 Author Share Posted November 27, 2003 Hey Guys, U say that the clear fins etc is fin regrowth??? so the fins grow back clear and then get colour. Ok well how fast do fins usually grow back, cause the clear fins take a while to appear. Hmm well i have taken his tank apart and he is now back in his bowl, he seems to like it better than the bigger tank : . Ill keep watchin the clear section and try to assess if the fins are in faxt getting longer, i didnt think they were but hey ill keep a close eye on it. His little side fins have also got chuncks out of them, so ill see how they progress as well.Yew i dont take any water parameters, but the tank had been set up for a good while with a preconditioned filter from an established tankOk thanx guys, ill monitor him and then decide if i need to buy meds and what not.Thanx for the assistanceGrungie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Yew, ordinarily i'd agree with you, but with the amount of weak bettas around at the moment, most pathogens can get a foothold in even the clearest tanks.I am keeping strict quarrantine, water changes, and ammonia detoxifiers (they seem to like that better than plain dechlor) and i'm still getting the occasional bacterial infection.BTW, i found bowls far better than tanks too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Hey,Have you tryed Promethasul? its a cheap anti fungus medication and it works a treat for fin rot and also white spot.cheersRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 No, i havent tried it, but i've seen it around... worth a shot you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cichlid_idiot Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Do you have any other fish tanks? If so, try using the water from another tank (preferably neutral ph) in a pickle jar (do not use tap water) and or chemicals. Don't worry about filters or air stones. Put this jar where it will get some natural light (not direct sunlight)Change this water every 2-3 days using the water from your other tank. I use this method without any problems.Cheers Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cichlid Chick Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 hey! It could be fin re-growth, one of my bettas has this problem too, he hasn't been having any other ill side effects and his fins do appear to be growing, but it is taking a long time...Has yours got any better? : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hey Cala,Yeah you should try out the Promethasul stuff since its safer to use on bettas than melafix since melafix needs a filtration going on and bettas live in jars.so yeah worth a shot if it doesnt work then try that method with the water changing like cichlid_idiot said.cheersRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett4Perth Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Hi Richard,safer to use on bettas than melafix since melafix needs a filtration goingInterested in what you meant by this comment. Have you had problems with Melafix? Why do you need filtration when using it? CheersBrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSi4EVA Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 You describe a very similar problem I am currently experiencing. My Silver Dollars have got the frayed fins with white kinda tips over the last 12 hours. I dont believe it is bacterial finrot but more in relation to water chemistry. I've done an 70% water change but I'll only know what has happened by the morning. I've replaced gravel and stupidly also a filter at the same time, so I think I am currently suffering from ammonia spikes. Test kits are on the way. I was able to grab a snap of the Dollar, which you may like to compare to your Betta. Sorry about the quality, but these lil buggers are blinding quick.I did and currently am suffer from this problem, and whilst it is bloody frustrating, (to the point the tank just about went out the door) water changes, seem to be a welcome comfort for the fish, along with Melafix, which I think did help a bit.Cheers,Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smasha Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Ok well any more suggestions in cures would be appeciated I use Spendid Betta Fix Remedy when my bettas are sick or have rips or tares in fins it works great as it is designed just for bettas HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Grungie, hows it going on your end? I've stopped 2 of mine completely with scissors and mercurochrome. One has stopped enough to give me some regrowth and with it, some time. One has lost entire rays, but she seems OK still. I'm getting there, but its a hard slog. Waterlife meds are being pulled off the shelves, grab them while you can! Also, have you tried Tetracycline or Trisulfa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungefreek Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 Hey Guys, wel lthis thread has kept going for a fair while now. Well my Betta still has the same whitening/clear edges of hid fins. His fins arent being eaten, but they havent grown much either. He is still happy and stuff so i have just left him. Im going to try and get soem web space so i can upload pictures, when i do, ill post one ehre so u can see what mine looks like. Its ahrd to see if the pic above is the same as mine. Ok Cya Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarvegorilla Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 It may be a long shot but try putting some dead banana leaf in the water with him. This (along with indian pepper and heaps of other leaves) is a remedy used to help heal wounded fighters in Thailand. SOmething to do with the tannins. You can chop it fine and keep it in a home made tea bag (cheese cloth). I have not had any problems and have even used (2nd hand) normal tea bags to no ill effect. May be worth a shot, just be prepared for questions when people notice your fighter tank is yellow........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarvegorilla Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 One thing I should add is that it can stimulate the whole fish muscus slime thing. This doesn't seem to bother them and may be beneficial but it can look gross!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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