Ben Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Hi all, I am looking for something new to put in one of my 4 footers. Problem is I am not sure what to put in there. I have a few things in mind but I haven’t been able to come up with something that fits all the qualities/characteristics. Here is what I am looking for. 1. Something that will happily live in a standard 4 foot tank. 2. Mustn’t be known to be skittish. The tank is in a hight traffic area. 3. Would like the males and females to be coloured. 4. Must raise their own fry. 5. Would prefer it to be Tanganyikan. 6. I want to keep the tank species only so what ever I choose must fill the tank. Species I have short listed are; Cyprichromis. Problem is females either aren’t or have very little colour. Julidochromis. Problem is Kristy doesn’t really like them. Tropheus. Problem is the tank is a little small for them. Has anyone got any other suggestions? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Hi Ben, What about L. leleupi or Telmatochromis vittatus?? merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canerod Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 hey Ben you could also look at a colony of N brichardi, or maybe N tetracanthus. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discusdude Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Geophagus steindachneri Or perhaps Archocentrus sajica Sajica Discus fit into 4 of the criteria - Eventually though, they will become used to the traffic and stop hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 ben, what about Pseudotropheus salausi , i know its a malawian but its a peacefull fish and fits in well and the males blue and the females yellow. or Pseudotropheus acei , just a suggestion ! regards rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 Hi Merjo, I was thinking of L leleupi but have put it on the list to ponder as I would end up with a tank full of orange/yellow fish then. Was hopping for some colour contrast. Telmatochromis I hadn’t thought of. Will have to do some research. Hi Bob, brichardi were also considered but I wasn’t sure how they would go in a 4 footer. I have kept them in the past and found them to be a little aggressive towards each other especially when spawning or guarding fry. N tetracanthus hadn’t thought of. Will have to do some research. Hi discusdude, Geophagus steindachneri don’t do it for me, sorry. Archocentrus sajica are a great looking fish but I am hoping for a 5 out of 5. Hi Rob, Kristy wanted salausi but I am pushing for a Tang and something that I can watch raise their fry and not eat them for lunch. The other draw back of the salausi is that I have kept them in the past and was looking for something new. Acei are the same reasons. Non Tang, love to eat their own fry and I have kept them in the past also. Thank you all for your suggestions. Keep them coming I have emptied the tank, it was full of foai fry, and given it a huge water change. I haven’t set the water parameters yet so you know of a Malawi species that may look after their fry and live in a 4 footer happily let me know. Here is a picture of the tank. It isn’t you normal 4 footer but it looks good. 4'x16"x19" LxWxH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 How about 1 male 3 female Copadichromis borleyi (chimwalani). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Personally I see your choices as VERY slim with the conditions you have put on the table. Fish not eating their fry cuts your list down to almost nothing but the obvious Cyps etc. I must admit I have seen some albino nigripinnis recently that look very nice but will burn a whopping hole in your pocket Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Hi Ben, If you want colour contrast to the leleupi.....I wonder if a pair of V. moori in with them would work? merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.s Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 have you considered neolamprologus crassus "moliro"? nice looking fish if you can get good ones. hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 6, 2004 Author Share Posted June 6, 2004 Thanks guys.....I am still looking. By the looks of things my only options are; Cyprichromis sp. Julidochromis sp. Tropheus sp. L. leleupi N. brichardi sp. Nigel, I would love to see some better picks of them. Is the 4 all you had or is that is all that is left? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 I would get Tropheus sp for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffin Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 I know you want a species only tank, but what about having a Cyp and a Juli species in the same tank? Gives you a bit more going on in the tank (Julis in the rocks on the bottom, Cyps in the mid water above). They should co-exist happily and even better, you should be able to have them both step-breed in there. The adults are not likely to eat each others fry. As for the Julis - have a look at some of the yellow varieties such as J. regani "Kipli" and "Zambia Gold" and J. ornatus "Congo Gold". They are really beautiful - I think you might even be able to change Kristy's mind with some of those. The only drawback of those varieties is that there aren't a whole lot of them around - but they are not impossible to find. Julis aren't particularly skittish - they will tend to hide a little at first but very quickly get used to people passing by and you'll see them all the time. Cheers, Jess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wombat Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 FYI Ben http://www.bmafricancichlidpage.com/id73.htm Also - have you thought about sand sifters, such as Callochromis? They are very active, colourful and interesting fish. Expensive but. http://www.tropheus.info/riftlakes/cichlid...eurospilus.html Cheers WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junek Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 ben, i'm about to set up a very similar tank and would love to know your final decisions, and how it is all going ect... cheers jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.d.m Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 i would think any of the psuedotrophius would fit the bill ,rather than set your heart on something really hard to get have alook around and see whats available. i have some zebras in a tank that im growing up my frontys in ,pretty common fish but there common cos there colourful active and breed easily plus they only bash each other up and leave the fronts alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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