YeW Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hello Everyone - Most ppl are aware the NSWCS has a fish at risk list. There are currently 5 species on the list (Orange & Green chromides, Krobia itanyi, Guianacara geayi & Pseudotropheus livingstonii). These fish get "special benefits" etc - see the NSWCS magazine for more details. For those interested Riverside Aquariums at Campsie have orange chromides in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Also....... there are two new additions to the at risk list. These will be announced at the NSWCS meeting on Saturday night. Just to keep you guessing: One is from Lake Tanganyika and the other is from Lake Malawi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wui39 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 How many chromides did Riverside have in stock? Juvies or Adults? and how much were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 1, 2004 Author Share Posted June 1, 2004 Wui - Didn't notice the price. There were a few (round 10-15). They were 4cm ish. HTH - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boots n all Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Orange chromides? there are three people that l know of down here in Melb. breeding them, one of them is a commercial breeder, who also has heaps of Pseudotropheus livingstonii fry (selling 3cm for $6.00) so the question is, what makes a fish "at risk" and what makes a fish "not at risk"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 1, 2004 Author Share Posted June 1, 2004 Boots - The NSWCS committee has decided on the fish on the "at risk" list. It applies mainly to NSW where until the list was instituted none of these fish were commonly available in this state. There are other worthy candidates but the NSWCS committee has taken the decision to keep the club list short to focus ppl's attention. What would be useful is if you could tell us whether there are any Krobia itanyi, green chromides or Guianacara geayi in Melbourne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hi YeW, There are a few green chromides over here merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wui39 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Thanks Yew, I'll be sure to give riverside a call tomorrow. I have a 4x18x18 sitting around doing nothng, maybe a brackish water tank might be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barca888 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Why is the livingstonii at risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boots n all Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hey Yew, happy to help but l am sorry to say that Krobia itanyi, green chromides and Guianacara geayi are not here either, but that is only what l know, l will how ever ask around and get back to you as soon as l have some results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 1, 2004 Author Share Posted June 1, 2004 Barca - I've not seen any Ps. livingstonii in Sydney for quite some time. Boots points out that they are cheap (they are indeed)... this is not necessarily indicitive of their rareness and has more to do with their popularity. Are you thinking of Nimbochromis livingstonii? It is a different fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boots n all Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Just to clear that up yes l am talking about the little zebra like fish known as Pseudotropheus livingstonii, for doubting me they are now $12 P.S They are not mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 Boots - I knew you knew which fish was being discussed. I was referring to Barca888's reply: Why is the livingstonii at risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boots n all Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Cool, if you want some let me know l will put you in touch with my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 If we can get enough ppl interested in shipping up some Ps livingstonii I would be interested in getting some. I was looking for these when the list first came out and coudn't get them any where Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discusdude Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 From what i hear Guianacara geayi are gone On the bright side, i have heard of quite a few green chromides around, though never seen any . As for the golds, i was bidding on them last auction, i knocked down someones jumper off the seat infront of me, and when i looked up, a couple of seconds later, they had been sold! . Maybe next time. Cheers Alistair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkoi Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 OK, so what if there has been a sighting of Orange chromides? Yes, they are "rare", but when they are available, they are so BAD quality it's abysmal keeping them!!! Anyone seen some decent quality orange chromides around? Some that actually are Orange/red? From the stuff I've seen going around as "Orange chromide"... u could hardly tell if they were orange or green. Look more "green"/colourless to me.... it's dissapointing. Why keep them when they are such poor quality anyway? Any imported stocks? Anyone wanting to breed these should seriously be looking at getting some "propper" orange chromides. The ones I've seen so far are fit for my curry dish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 The Chromides Merjo refered to are orange chromides, they are the wild form and they are very good quality. The ones Kevkoi has seen are also the wild variety, the bright orange variety are an aquarium strain I haven't seen them for about 4 years. Orange Chromides get to about 2" long and Greens about 12". I'm still looking for a Green male to go with my breeding pair of females. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 Kevkoi - There are two morphs of "gold" chromides (E. maculatus) . A greenish fish (which is the normal colour!) and a "gold" morph - this doesnt mean the green ones are poor quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barca888 Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Sorry i was thinking of thie wrong livingstonii. Never knew there was another type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkoi Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 I've seen wildcaught orange chromides and I've kept these as a kid. I've also got 2 pairs of the "Australian bred" Orange chromides currently and they're a long shot off their wild cousins. Colour, even as adults are much more muted as compared to what I've kept overseas and often see overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian09 Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 What were the two new ones added to the list??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 7, 2004 Author Share Posted June 7, 2004 Kevin - The "orange" form of the orange chromide may be a naturally occuring "morph"... I thought it was an aquarium only strain.... However, the greenish fish we have here with small orange spots is as good a quality as you will find overseas and looks identical to all others I saw overseas. Perhaps you had a particularly good specimen?? Do you have any photos? Everyone else: The two new fish added to the list are: Ectodus descampsii 'Ndole Bay' and Melanochromis joanjohnsonae ("Melanochromis exasperatus") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Good choice!! I currenty have 2 colonies of joanjohnsonae breeding well and will be offering fry soon. Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 7, 2004 Author Share Posted June 7, 2004 Kev - Check these overseas pics out: They look pretty much the same as the ones available at present (though these are adults): http://www.wiljo.nu/images/fisksidae/etroplus.htm http://hernando.free.fr/cichlidae/_inde_ma...r/et_maculatus/ (less bloching on this fish) http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/Etroplus/maculatus.php (the juveniles available look very similar to this adult) Also Gus of the NSWCS (see the magazine for contact details) said that anyone who is interested in buying some gold chromides can contact him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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