LithoMan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Hi allI have been breeding electric yellows now for a whileAnd know that they are known for sunken bellyI have only probably ever had one go like thatBut about 9months ago I changed my 7ft tank into a big breeding colony around 50 yellowsWith dubosi all growing outWhat I have noticed is a fair few starting to get sunken bellyFrom 4cm to adult sizeI am wondering does the parasite pass though to the other fish or notSpeaking to a friend of mine I got toldBiggest problem that fish get wasting is stressIt's possible the dubosi starting to stress them they are 6-7cm nowCan it be getting under fed ? Cause scared of the tropheus getting bloat ?Has anyone else experienced this having a big group of yellows ?Any suggestions will be greatI have around 5 different "bloodlines" meaning from different breedersI know 99% are all interbred anywayInterested to hear from peopleThanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy65 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If you really want to get to the bottom of the issue...submit an affected but still alive fish to a fish friendly vet ...they'll do a post mortem and submit the fish for pathology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 What would he expect to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy65 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Hmmmm..it depends really...could be $100+ for diagnostics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hi LithoI agree with Noddy send a live fish that shows the symptomsfor a pathology reportit could be parasite or viral and may even be fish TBGav posted in technical contacts for a good fish vet if you don't have onehttp://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=48776let us know how you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I believe Noddy knows an excellent one. Shoot him a PM. I dug up an couple of old thread that are relevant. http://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=15234http://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=15895 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithoMan Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 If you do get a diagnosis, be sure to post the outcome as I'm very interested and I'm sure others are to.I'm guessing it's common internal Protozoa.The yellows are quality and these particular lines have weak immune systems, (maybe excessive use of metro or Dimetro) in the lines history.So yellows are easily weakened due to a lot of causes which allows onset of internal Protozoa easily.Maybe stress from Tropheus territorial behavior then the yellows weakened immune system due to this allowed Protozoa to take hold.I also believe that all you guys are excellent aquarists which never allows the Protozoa to take hold 90% of the time.Just a assumption of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firthy13 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I think it would be worth putting a divider in the tank and separating the dubs from the yellows first. Tropheus us are pretty aggressive eaters compared to other fish. Obviously to reduce the chance of bloat, the best way to feed is small portions fed frequently throughout the day. It's quite possibly that the same lot of more aggressive fish are getting to the food first. The best divider I have used is a thick sheet of blue aquarium sponge from Clark rubber cut a few inches bigger then the HxW of your tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinf Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 i had the same thing happen with my yellows when i increased the colony size . mine were with with lip madokos in a 5"x18i was trying everything more food less food nothing helped more food made things worse .anyway mine are in my house and i used to open the blind to see then but in oct/nov they must have got to hot so i closed the blind when i worked this out and the sick one droped off and the rest stablzed its been about 6 weeks know and there both breeding well . but one yellow is very skinny in there the vets a good idea my colony is not male heavy now so i think the dom male cut down some smaller males hang in there theyl get right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithoMan Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Mine are constant breeders still as we speak 5 mouthfulsIt's just I have noticed more sunken bellyThan I have ever had beforeThis is why I was wondering to see if any other people experienced thisI would do the vet thing but I don't have a few hundred to spendAnd I am sure many may times world wide people would have done thisStill no answer.Thanks for all the response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinf Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 do you think the tank gets up to and past 30 degrees on hot days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithoMan Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Nah room temp max gets about 28cWhat's on your mind ? In regards to tempCheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinf Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 when it happened to me i put it down to hot days ..dbut who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullyYellow Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I had this discussion before with some breeders on this forum Edwin. They narrowed it down to genetics of the fish. Mainly the highly quality fish are more susceptible to having sunken belly. I do have electric yellows with sunken belly as well I tend to pull them out and place them into the fry grow out tank so there is a greater supply of high protein foods. It's a hit and miss with my method as some are too far gone to recover from it. But it's much better than leaving them in the current tank and starving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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