Ripponlea Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi Everyone,Very excited to join the world of Cichlid keeping! I am a new fish owner, and have spent many months researching and learning as much as I can about the hobby. In Nov last year I purchased a 4ft tank second hand. It was quite shabby looking, so I have spent the last few months repainting the cabinet and deciding what fish to keep. Once I set my eyes on African Cichlids, I knew they were for me!I am almost ready to put water in the tank and do a fishless cycle, but I do have a few questions that I am sure you all may be able to help with.This is my tank, just because I do like showing people! I cant wait to fill it up.First question. I am a little confused about how much 'flow' is needed in tanks. I have an Aqua One Aquis 1250 canister filter for the tank. Max flow is 1400, but now I am really concerned it wont be enough, as I since found out the operational flow is half this amount. Will I need another filter to increase the 'flow' (my understanding of this term is very basic, bare with me!), or does the ideal flow of a tank include the filter as well as water movement like a powerhead or wavemaker? Would adding one of these be worthwhile? I am quite unsure what avenue to take. Baring in mind, the tank hasnt been stocked yet and I am open to suggestions about how and what to keep.. taking into consideration my filter's cleaning capacity and bioload etc.Having only kept goldfish before, this is quite an overwhelming but exciting adventure. It is amazing how much of an art fish keeping really is.Thanks in advance, and I look forward to becoming part of your community!Cheers!Bec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi Bec welcome to ACE so glad to hear you have done some research and have thepatience to start your adventures with Cichlidsthe tank and cabinetry look very neat ... great job the Aquis 1250 should be fine for a standard 4' tank and if youwant to add extra filtration another filter can be added laterhave you started the tank and kicked off the bacteria for the filteronce things are running you will be finedo you have a stocking list and will you be starting with fry to growor get larger fishenjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripponlea Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Thank you! I have jumped head first into fish keeping before with some unpleasant consequences. I've vowed to exercise patience and do it all by the book this time! I have learnt a lot but feel like I've only touched the surface.Anyway, good to know the filter will be fine to start with. Fingers crossed I won't need another.The water will be going in in the next few days. I am not quite sure if I will go with fish food for the cycle or ammonia. I don't have any friends with established tanks to pinch some filter media or anything which is a shame. I believe there are a few products though that help with bacteria? I do not have a stocking list yet I definitely don't want to go down the tank buster path as this is, and will be, my only tank. Whatever goes in will need to be of the dwarf variety. Will happily take any stocking suggestions! I have no preference between the types as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripponlea Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 And I will be getting smaller/younger fish from my LFS They would only be an inch or two maximum. They do sell larger but my budget likes the smaller ones better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi, welcome to the forums,For your fishless cycle, ammonia is probably better than fish food. You can get higher quantities for lower prices than if you were to use fish food. There probably are products, but i have never seen anything promoted as being really worth buying. The best you can do is be patient, and letting the fishless cycle process do its thing.What type of African Cichlids are you going for? I can suggest looking at some fish at your LFS, finding what you like, writing the names down and researching that specific species when you get home. You should find tonnes of information on what is best for that species.Ask lots of questions on the forums too, it helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Adding a little power head of 5watts worth at the surface of water breaking tension will allow better oxygen transfer and help keep water cool in the extreme heat.The added circulation will also increase movement at substrate level which picks up the junk and collects in filters giving a cleaner tank with likely no siphoning maintenance if set right.The fish less cycle using ammonia is really commonly used in quarantines or shops where large numbers of fish come and go.Large numbers of fish arriving can majorly disrupt a cycled balance.A experienced person will know his bio-load size before its arrival and use a measured dose of ammonia prior to increase beneficial bacteria numbers to a particular level to deal with the sudden impact.Just by your fish in twos and threes at a time and slowly build the stock to let the nitrogen cycle balance and catch up each time.A good three weeks before the first two,,,, then add them weekly after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripponlea Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Thanks heaps for your suggestions and information It is much appreciated.I will pop down to my LFS this week and see what tickles my fancy and do some research on the species. All I know at the moment is that I want bright, bright bright.We are having extreme heat at the moment of up to 44 degrees. The room the tank is in tends to reach around 33 at that temperature, so a little extra circulation sounds like it might be a really good thing. Luckily these temperatures are only a few weeks of the year, and will likely drop before I add fish.If I have any more questions I will be sure to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulochromis Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Never bothered with cycling - clean the gravel, de-chlorinate the water (I use Prime), run mechanical filter for a day to clear things up, then add fish and bacterial agent (I use SeaChem Stability). Follow the instructions on the bottle. I keep Tropheus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gombe Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Bec, welcome to Ace, just want to make sure you cleaned the sand, clean it then clean it them clean it again, I didn't clean my sand once, Only once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 SeaChem Stability is a good option while cycling. Helps lower ammonia and nitrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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