Luke Austin Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Hey everyone, I was checking out the LFS's in Newcastle yesterday and saw a fish which was labelled as Ciclasoma freidricstalii (spelling?), they looked alot like a young jag, they were hammering the young synspilum in with them.... anyone have any idea as to what they are, I did some searches and they came up trumps. cheers, Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Cichlasoma friedrichsthalii Parachromis friedrichsthali Its just a matter of finding the spelling that will hit some results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Austin Posted April 1, 2004 Author Share Posted April 1, 2004 thanks ducksta, Is there anyone out there who has kept them before? How agressive are they? Once again the net seems to be pretty sparse on good info that isnt in german! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcichlid Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Hi I have an adult freddie and have kept them before. I've posted on them before. They are very similar in appearance to jags only without such intense markings (they are much closer to C.motaguense). Many of the fredrichstahli in Australia appear to have an albino gene and they can change to albino and back again ( its 100% true - I've had several do this!). Problem with the albino gene is that it affects their vision and both the last adult I had and the one I have now went completely blind.Norm from Riverside Aquariums has also had this change from normal to albino and back again happen with some of his freddies. My current fish has been completely blind for nearly 2 years now but is healthy, eats fine and has no problems swimming or getting along with his tankmates. I've always found them considerably less aggressive than jags in their general behavior. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierced Soul Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Their pretty docile and peaceful as far as central's go. The only time they get angry is when their spawning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Austin Posted April 5, 2004 Author Share Posted April 5, 2004 thanks guys, How big do they get? 'docile' enough to go in a community of southern/centrals of med-large size? (the smallest will be a 5" choc cichlid). once again, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierced Soul Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 off the top of my head, I'm thinking they get to 8"-"10.m I have them in several American community tanks with other americans including Green Terrors, Texas, Synspilum, Black Belts, and some others. they dont cause any trouble at all. In fact you may want to make sure they dont get picked on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Hi all, Many of the fredrichstahli in Australia appear to have an albino gene and they can change to albino and back again ( its 100% true - I've had several do this!). How is this possible? merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyndon Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Who knows how its possible Merjo. Obviously its not a true albino but it is weird non the less. I have had the same happen with a female I used to have. Lyndon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Hi Lyndon, I know that there is a gold variation called "Panama Gold" but it is not an albino.Obviously its not a true albino .....obviously! merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcichlid Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 merjo The fredrichstahli's I've had ( including the current one I have) were true albinos - not a golden strain. Changed from normal brown/black markings to whitey pink with red eyes ( then eventually blind). About every 6 months they began to partially morph back to normal colouring and develop dark body patches and a yellowy hue but over a couple of weeks this disapears and they went back to albino. They also stopped growing at about 15cm. The one male I have now is abt 3 years old and 13-15cm in size. I have no idea what the explanation is - this is the third freddie I've had that has gone through this metamorphisis. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Thanks for that Nick...it just seems so incredible to me....very bizarre! merjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungholio Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 They are a beautiful fish!! awesome!! but they are quite timid and would get beaten up by fish like Rivulatus, Jack Dempseys, and anything like that, they seem to do quite well with firemouths and alike. I want to see some of that morphing!!! sounds cool adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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