scotty81 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hey, Just wondering if someone can confirm the id of this fish. Its meant to be a Jewel Red forrest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua84 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 hey mate definately a red forest jewel, i had a heap that didnt have good colour either. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 hey mate definately a red forest jewel, i had a heap that didnt have good colour either. cheers Did they eventualy go red??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pav Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Depends on a number of factors - tankmates/lighting/water quality/food etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Jewel Cichlids only take on the classic colour they are famous for when they pair off and breed. Find this one a mate and I am sure you'll see a change for the better. Even breeding pairs will fade out between spawns. Cheers, Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudotrop Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Jewel Cichlids only take on the classic colour they are famous for when they pair off and breed. Find this one a mate and I am sure you'll see a change for the better. Even breeding pairs will fade out between spawns. Cheers, Andrew. Hmm, I've got a Jewel that is incredibly colourful in my 3' and he has no mates. Only fades when I remove him from the tank. I'll post a pic later in the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Sounds great! I expect, as with everything to do with cichlids, there will always be exceptions. One thought that springs to mind is that your jewel must be very happy and even without a mate, feels quite randy! lol I was merely stating the "typical" norm for the species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroyd Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 You almost certainly have a hybrid. There was at least 2 species in Australia known as Red Jewels. Hemichromis bimaculatus and H. lifalilli, IIRC. They're still nice fish, just not really the true species. The fact that pretty much all Australian Jewels are crossed may explain variation in quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiguy Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ive kept both the bimaculatus (common in the 80s,and probably guttatus) and lallifli (in 2000 some may be cristatus) and your fish looks more like "bimaculatus" (or some poor hybrid)In the 80s we all wondered why we didnt have fish that looked like Hans Richters amazing photos in TFH.They were of course a different species(lalliflii).There are quite a lot of other species which vary in blue spanges,amount of red and dark blotching.My experience was that lalliflii coloured up quite early and was much more colurful than"bimaculatus"from a young age and all the fry were a similar colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudotrop Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I don't know if mine is a hybrid or not, he/she seems to have a different shape to most others that I've seen about the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fongyfong Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't know if mine is a hybrid or not, he/she seems to have a different shape to most others that I've seen about the place. nice! that is the reddest red jewel i have ever seen and biggest too!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIMO Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hybrid or not, who cares. That's an awesome looking fish. I love the shape and the colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiguy Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 The real bimaculatus is supposed to have a much longer snout than the other jewels.That magnificent red forest jewel has a much shorter snout than the fish in question,it would be another reason I dont think it is lalliflii or cristatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbin4 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Depends on size/age of your fish As said some colour up when over 5/7cm + When breeding show best colour Both male and female colour up as well pseudotrop, thats a nice looking fish but,,,, not a Red Forrest Jewel,, pity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citypainter Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 When I was a kid there was the red forest jewel. (Shop labels) that was about 100mm in length. These were fairly docile but extremely red and pretty There was also an orange Jewel cichlid that was about 30-40mm in length. There was a clear diference. Now there is confusion. I thnk practically all Jewel lines are hybridised. The fact that yours is about 25-30mm and orange is promising to me. The smaller ones were nastier though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 At one of my lfs there were a pair of jewels with the same colour of pseudotrop's fish. they were around 2 and a half inches. BUT, they were breeding. Next time I went back to the store (2 weeks) the fry wernt there and they still had te same colour. anyway... Cooder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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