scotty81 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hi I have a new 160 Lt tank, and was wondering how many fish I would be able to keep. Was planning on a couple of electric yellows and a couple of another type of cichlid ( something colourfull.....sugestions??? ) also how many bristlenose should I get for cleaning purposes? The other problem I have is my tank has been running now for 4 days and the water is still a little cloudy..... any thoughts on what the problem might be??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 what are the exact dimensions for the tank cause surface area if the tank is important depth and width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 what are the exact dimensions for the tank cause surface area if the tank is important depth and width. Tank is triangular tank and the surface area is about 3000cm2 and its 52cm deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0oks Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Rule of thumb is 10ltrs per mbuna. So for a 160ltr tank. Max i would put is 16. Bristlenose, i would put less then 4. Hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Rule of thumb is 10ltrs per mbuna. So for a 160ltr tank. Max i would put is 16. Bristlenose, i would put less then 4. Hth So if I put two bristlenose i there, 2 electric yellows, what else can I put in.....something with colour ( keeps the kids interested ) probably only want to put another 2 of whatever else in Also does it matter what type of bristlenose??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philjo1 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Hi There Ps. Acei (blue with yellow tails look good with Electric Yellos in my experience. Also get on quite well together. Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Hi There Ps. Acei (blue with yellow tails look good with Electric Yellos in my experience. Also get on quite well together. Cheers Phil i second that you might want to speak to tootie shoot her off a pm plus she has lost of other nice fish to go with those 2 fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Hi There Ps. Acei (blue with yellow tails look good with Electric Yellos in my experience. Also get on quite well together. Cheers Phil i second that you might want to speak to tootie shoot her off a pm plus she has lost of other nice fish to go with those 2 fish. Ok so here's what i'm planning then, 2 Britlenose, 2 electric yellows, 2 Ps. Acei or similar and 3 clown loaches, would this be ok or not for this size tank and would these fish get along or should I not have the clown loaches and get something else???? Any suggestions on fixing the cloudy water??? Water is good just cloudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 This is pic of my new setup, it's hard to tell but the water is tad cloudy any sugestions??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathobes Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 This is pic of my new setup, it's hard to tell but the water is tad cloudy any sugestions??? there could be a couple of factors. Did you wash your substrate thouroghly? Is the filter adequate for a 160l? Have you had your water tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 This is pic of my new setup, it's hard to tell but the water is tad cloudy any sugestions??? there could be a couple of factors. Did you wash your substrate thouroghly? Is the filter adequate for a 160l? Have you had your water tested? I washed the substrate, to atleast what I thought was thoroughly. Fliter/ pump is rated to 1200L/hr Water PH is 7.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathobes Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 This is pic of my new setup, it's hard to tell but the water is tad cloudy any sugestions??? there could be a couple of factors. Did you wash your substrate thouroghly? Is the filter adequate for a 160l? Have you had your water tested? I washed the substrate, to atleast what I thought was thoroughly. Fliter/ pump is rated to 1200L/hr Water PH is 7.8 filter is fine, was the water from the substrate running clear after washing it? sometimes it will take some time for a new setup to adapt. it can take from one day to several weeks. i would wait it out or if you are worried about it try a 50% water change and by the next day it should be running pretty clear. you can also get aqaurium supplements that speed up the biological and chemical filtration adaption. But as i said, wait it out a couple more days and it should fix itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfy Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 In theory bristlenose will not like the water conditions you should supply for your cichlids. Having said that ours breed happily (both the cichlids and BN) Cuckoo Catfish are much better suited to the conditions, look good and go very well with cichlids. With adequate filtration you could probably add a few more fish; a small colony (4-6 fish) of E. Yellows, another small cichlid colony (select from - depending on which colours you like - cobalt blue, saulosi, ps. elongatus, aceii (black ones IMHO)). For some extra variety some clown loaches (however they get very large and do best in community groups), a single rainbow or red tail shark even a convict or albino convict would go well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks for the replies, I will wait another week, and if it doesn't clear i'll try the 50% change out, will also look at all those fish listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 it really depends what you want to do with the tank breed from it or just for display an all male tank is cool as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 it really depends what you want to do with the tank breed from it or just for display an all male tank is cool as well Won't they get to agressive to each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathobes Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 it really depends what you want to do with the tank breed from it or just for display an all male tank is cool as well Won't they get to agressive to each other all male tanks are cool especially when stocking aulonocara and haps. every tank will have some level of aggression but with diligent choices of the fish you Keep then the aggression levels can stick to a real minimum. How did you go getting rid of the cloudy water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathobes Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Plus with all male tanks there is no mating aggression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 Plus with all male tanks there is no mating aggression Ok tank is coming along ok, I have two Bristlenose 4 electric yellows and one electric blue. Did some tests today and results are as follows. PH 7.6 amonia 0.25, Nitrate 0 Nitrite 0. Bit concerned about amonia but is low. I have aqua mater PH up but how much do you add to raise the PH??? Tank is 160 litre. Also the guy at my local fish tank said I should stock 14 cichlids in this tank as it would erase any agression. Is this right?? Could my tank handle it??? It's a top filter 1200l/hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 while you have traces of ammonia do not increase pH as toxcicity of ammonia increases with pH do not add any more fish yet keep monitoring the water has it had any spike during cycling Malawis are happy with alkaline pH around 7.5 and the need to boost pH for Malawi species is mainly in the head of the hobbiest, generated by chemical suppliers and required if the fish are not breeding, not happy or lacking colour when fed quality foods what is the carbonate and general hardness of the water ? this is more important I feel as this is what contols stability to the water parameters Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 while you have traces of ammonia do not increase pH as toxcicity of ammonia increases with pH do not add any more fish yet keep monitoring the water has it had any spike during cycling Malawis are happy with alkaline pH around 7.5 and the need to boost pH for Malawi species is mainly in the head of the hobbiest, generated by chemical suppliers and required if the fish are not breeding, not happy or lacking colour when fed quality foods what is the carbonate and general hardness of the water ? this is more important I feel as this is what contols stability to the water parameters Chris Tested again today and Amonia has risen a little to 0.5 tp 1 all other tests came bach the same. How can I lower the amonia level??? Definately wont be adding more fish then.k Hasn't had any real spikes at all. Fish seem happy, they are active and have a good apetite. This amonia level is becoming a concern though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Amonia still up around 1. Is there anything I can do??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathobes Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Amonia still up around 1. Is there anything I can do??? Have you got any zeolite in your filtration setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Amonia still up around 1. Is there anything I can do??? Have you got any zeolite in your filtration setup? zeolite??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty81 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 New fish that I have ordered which will go into the tank once the water situation is under cotrol are as follows ( They will be all male ) What are peoples thoughts?? 1 x Red forrest Jewel Cichlid 4cm 1 x Blue Peacock 5cm 1 x Cynotilapia Afra Cobwe 5cm this will add to the fish I already have 4 x Electric Yellow 2 X 4cm 1x 5cm 1 x 6cm 1 x Electric Blue 9cm 2 x Bristlenose 1 x 5cm 1 x 6cm Local fish shop said I should keep bout 14 cichlids in this tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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