moomies Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 i have a 55g stocked with 5 silver dollars, 1 jack dempsey, and 2 firemouths that appear to be living harmoniously together. no real fights or fin nipping. the water quality is good with 0 ammonia and nitrite, and low nitrate. PH is ~7.8, Gh is 10, Kh is 7. the inhabitants have lived in these water conditions for a couple of years, and overall have been in good health. 6 days ago i noticed 1 of the silver dollars with a wound along the perimeter of his eye. it appeared to be open and quite bulbous. i began a melafix(tee tree oil equivalent at least) treatment of one dose per day, as well as adding 1tbsp/5g rock salt on the first day. over the first 5 days the wound appeared to make no real change, and the fishes behavior was subdued with little swimming or socializing. he was taking food, however. today the wound appears to have ballooned to approx +50% of its size, and the fish has began to twitch slightly. i have made a 30% water change(which was scheduled for today, anyway) and have continued with the melafix treatment, as well as dosing the fresh water with salt. one of the books i own("enjoying cichlids") suggests removing the fish once per day to treat "large" wounds with antibiotic ointment that can be provided by a vet. is this the logical next step? i currently have never had to treat a fish beyond the basics such as ich, small wounds etc. i dont have a hospital tank, but can get one tomorrow if i have to. im not sure if i can visit the vet today since it's 5pm where i live, and am unsure whether there will be any open in my city. is there another treatment i can attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyedge Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 It seems you have done what I would do if I was in your circumstances, and quite correct with the use of antibiotic as your next step as the wound has become infected. Yes, the vet will be able to prescribe some antibiotics for the fish. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisshy Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 i have a 55g stocked with 5 silver dollars, 1 jack dempsey, and 2 firemouths that appear to be living harmoniously together. no real fights or fin nipping. the water quality is good with 0 ammonia and nitrite, and low nitrate. PH is ~7.8, Gh is 10, Kh is 7. the inhabitants have lived in these water conditions for a couple of years, and overall have been in good health. 6 days ago i noticed 1 of the silver dollars with a wound along the perimeter of his eye. it appeared to be open and quite bulbous. i began a melafix(tee tree oil equivalent at least) treatment of one dose per day, as well as adding 1tbsp/5g rock salt on the first day. over the first 5 days the wound appeared to make no real change, and the fishes behavior was subdued with little swimming or socializing. he was taking food, however. today the wound appears to have ballooned to approx +50% of its size, and the fish has began to twitch slightly. i have made a 30% water change(which was scheduled for today, anyway) and have continued with the melafix treatment, as well as dosing the fresh water with salt. one of the books i own("enjoying cichlids") suggests removing the fish once per day to treat "large" wounds with antibiotic ointment that can be provided by a vet. is this the logical next step? i currently have never had to treat a fish beyond the basics such as ich, small wounds etc. i dont have a hospital tank, but can get one tomorrow if i have to. im not sure if i can visit the vet today since it's 5pm where i live, and am unsure whether there will be any open in my city. is there another treatment i can attempt? We all love our fish, the cost of a silver dollar to buy another one is much less than goin to the vet. You will spend somewhere about $100 for visit an medicine , if you have good quality water let nature take its cource it might fix itself or go to the aquarium shop with the silver dollar so they can see for themself .Lookin at the wound might help them diagnose the problem . hope it does get better i dont like to loose fish but at the end of the day its just a fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debgrafish Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 its sounds like the wound has now got a bacterial infection, waterlife myxazin, available at most aquariums is also very good, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomies Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 We all love our fish, the cost of a silver dollar to buy another one is much less than goin to the vet. You will spend somewhere about $100 for visit an medicine , if you have good quality water let nature take its cource it might fix itself or go to the aquarium shop with the silver dollar so they can see for themself .Lookin at the wound might help them diagnose the problem . hope it does get better i dont like to loose fish but at the end of the day its just a fish i hear you, but if my dempsey was in this situation i would be willing to part with a lot more than $100 and be very nervous administering a treatment like this for the first time. so, learning on another fish might be worth the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomies Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 its sounds like the wound has now got a bacterial infection, waterlife myxazin, available at most aquariums is also very good, do you know if this can be used in conjunction with melafix? and.... should it fail, will it most likely be too late to use antibiotics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomies Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 i took some pic btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debgrafish Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Perhaps go straight for the antibiotics just to be on the safe side, it looks like the eye has covered right over in the second photo. And as you said it will be a good experience if you havent ever used them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy65 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 From those pics it looks like it might be INSIDE the eye (ie under the cornea) rather than on the surface? Can you confirm this? How old is the fish? It looks almost like a growth to me (tumour?) rather than a true wound? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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