cooder Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hi y'all i was wondereing, which type of filter is best for a 485 L tank i heard that undergravel filters are the best for large tanks but i still have my doubts. Cooder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfarrow Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hi y'all i was wondereing, which type of filter is best for a 485 L tank i heard that undergravel filters are the best for large tanks but i still have my doubts. Cooder Hi Cooder, I would have to disagree with the undergravel filter, I feel the tank maybe a little big and undergravel filters have problems with our climate. A canister would be fine, I would recommend Otto brand, basic but good. Good luck Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fongyfong Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Dont like undergravel filters youll need coarse gravel and cant use very fine substrate as the undergravel filter might suck it up,canister would be good but i do recommend getting a mini reef, with overflow box. You can hide heaters etc, but its a bit more noiser then a canister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasm Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 depend on the stocking level, I'm using a minireef and Eheim 2217 for my 4ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krellious Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 undergravel filters are useless. the water is not cleaned at all. the poo and debris is just hiden under the gravel, try a sump or large cannister and you will not be disapointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Undergravel filters are far from useless. They may not be the most effective filtration available, these days, but they still an effective form of filtration in the right applications. Sumps and canisters also just "hide" the debris away until they are cleaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 As Josh says U/G have an application in the right situation people use them as mechanical flitration rather than biological as they were intended for, no wonder they clog with crap A correctly packed cannister filter and an in tank sponge filter would be my preferrence consider a sump after you have had more experience and are looking to add another bigger tank to the collection seeing the tank is on dislpay in your parents home I wouldn't go the side drop due to it being not very aesthetically pleasing for display have you considered trying to get some work experience in the LFS up there ? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli Powder Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Really depends on your system and what you are trying to do. If you are running a breeding setup and have fish room, I would run all air driven filters. I did so successfully and kept lots of breeding Tangs, Malawi's and South Americans. Most of my tanks had custom in-built air driven filters and others used the box filters with a mix of coral rubble and eheim effisubstrat (for the hard alkaline requirements). There is a YouTube video of my fish room. Search for Addicted2Fish. For a bigger tank or messy and large fish, and espeially for a display tank, you can't go past a sump/trickle filter. Look at the marine sump/filter setups as they are better designed and will work a treat for fresh water setups. I feel that the traditional fresh water sump setups are outdatd and newer designs have much better functionality. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I have to agree with Josh and Chris yet again . From what I understand from your situation go for a canister and easier to get on line. I have mainly have sumps for my larger tanks and systems, but as Josh mentioned they simply hide the problem and are a PITA to keep quiet and setup. I also run air driven sponge filters for my fish room and they are great. cheers rosco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 If any of you guys read any of my later posts you would of read that I am starting off with a 3ft tank. I dont know much about filters or there names!! the tank i am getting comes with a filter. its just one of the ones that goes on the side. I abandoned the idea of the 6ft due to expenses and where i could put it . also because i dont have much experience. Just one little question, in a book it said that larger tanks are easier to clean but you would think that they're bigger so it would take longer. are they?? any advice is appreciated Cooder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfarrow Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 If any of you guys read any of my later posts you would of read that I am starting off with a 3ft tank. I dont know much about filters or there names!! the tank i am getting comes with a filter. its just one of the ones that goes on the side. I abandoned the idea of the 6ft due to expenses and where i could put it . also because i dont have much experience. Just one little question, in a book it said that larger tanks are easier to clean but you would think that they're bigger so it would take longer. are they?? any advice is appreciated Cooder Hi mate, the bigger the tank the easier it is to keep the water parameters stable, but you shouldn't have a problem with your 3fter. As long as you perform weekly water changes at 25% your filter is perfect. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Bigger tanks are easy to maintain IMHO. They tend to stay more stable due the the volume of water, but this also depends on stocking levels and filtration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hi, thanks for the advice. it is true that with larger tanks the water would be more stanle but when it comes to cleaning, larger tanks would have to be harder and take longer to do. PS. when i have my 3fter (hopefully soon) ill let u all now. including the fish and plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Larger tank may take longer, depending on what sort of equipment you use to clean it. Put it this way a 3 footer might take an hour, a 6 footer might take an hour and 10 mins, but with the same stocking rates, you could probably do the bigger tank less often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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