Foti Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 i think 3 or 4 of my fish in my comunity might have this ?? iv googled it to see what it looks like but there all covered is that what it is ment to look like or can it just be 2 spots on body for example ??? need some help it looks like mold?on under scales please if someone has a photo or two can you please post it! i would really appreciate it thank you ill try take a photo and post.. they dont seem to be scratching which just confuses me ?? are they ment to?? thank you foti...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hey Foti, Bad news about your fish mate. can it just be 2 spots on body for example ??? It may start out as a few spots but should quickly spread all over the fish if it is whitespot. It should look like little grains of salt stuck to the fish if it is whitespot. Example it looks like mold?on under scales This sounds more like a fungal infection to me. Is it i little fluffy white/grey patch? Example If it is whitespot, I would treat the whole tank with meds. (you should be able to get this easy enough from your LFS) I would make sure the temp is around 28-30deg while you are medicating. If it is a fungal infection, I would isolate the fish and treat accordingly (you should also be able to get a hold of some meds from your LFS) These infections are usually caused by poor water quality, so keep doing regular water changes and everything should be fine. (the above are not my pics) Cheers Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hey Foti, It may start out as a few spots but should quickly spread all over the fish if it is whitespot. It should look like little grains of salt stuck to the fish if it is whitespot. Example If it is whitespot, I would treat the whole tank with meds. (you should be able to get this easy enough from your LFS) I would make sure the temp is around 28-30deg while you are medicating. These infections are usually caused by poor water quality, so keep doing regular water changes and everything should be fine. joel thank you for your help i just got some fish 13 to be exact n now this i try to do a water change this week only thing is i have some peppermint cats in there as well can they be in there when im treating ??? i have decided that its white spot dried up salt like grains on the body than seem to be multipling but i think i cought it early i seen a post about some meds ill pm sorry about rushed post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 i have some peppermint cats in there as well can they be in there when im treating ??? I would think the peppermints would be okay - although it may be a little hard to determine when the whitespot is no longer present on them I would be more worried about scaleless fish or tetra species if you have any. When treating these fish you should half the recommended dose as these fish wont cope as well as scaled fish. Peppermints should be fine though. Whitespot is everpresent in the aquarium, but can also 'hitch a ride' with new fish added to the aquarium. If the new fish had whitespot, it could quickly infect your others. It is also possible if water quality drops and a fish becomes weak (wether it has been recently introduced or otherwise), whitespot will usually attack the weak fish, multiply and lead to an outbreak. Cheers Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 i have some peppermint cats in there as well can they be in there when im treating ??? I would think the peppermints would be okay - although it may be a little hard to determine when the whitespot is no longer present on them I would be more worried about scaleless fish or tetra species if you have any. When treating these fish you should half the recommended dose as these fish wont cope as well as scaled fish. Peppermints should be fine though. Whitespot is everpresent in the aquarium, but can also 'hitch a ride' with new fish added to the aquarium. If the new fish had whitespot, it could quickly infect your others. It is also possible if water quality drops and a fish becomes weak (wether it has been recently introduced or otherwise), whitespot will usually attack the weak fish, multiply and lead to an outbreak. Cheers Joel joel you have no idea how much help you have been thank you but i have 2 more questions 1. should i buy meds? iv raised temp to 29-30 added lots of salt. 2. if so what meds? okay 3 questions am i going to have to deal with this again in the future ?????? thank you once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I would recommend buying meds. They really are needed to help you fish survive. You may also need the meds in future, so it doesnt hurt to have them on hand just in case. Thankfully I havent had to deal with white spot recently and dont have any meds on hand myself (caught myself out on my own advice... - I do have other meds for other problems that may arise ) I am unsure of a brand. I would think they all do equally as good a job in any case, unless someone else can clarify. I would recommend going to you LFS and asking for a whitespot or Ich treatment. Im sure they can help you out with the right product. Be careful not to overdose on the salts aswell. Im not very experienced with this, so cant offer advise on dosage etc. Too much may be harmful I would think. There is a good chance you will have to deal with it again in future, but having this happen now is a 'good' (for lack of a better word) learning experience on how to help prevent it occuring again and how to deal with it if it does. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmowens Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 hey mate i have used aqua master rapid white spot remedy before. there are two types. make sure that you get the one with formaldehyde and malachite green in it. dose according to the directions and remember to remove any carbon from the filter. HTH Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracuda Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hi Foti Do NOT use a full dose medication on your peppermints - they are scaless catfish and are very sensitive - doing so will probably kill them. I recently had an outbreak of whitespot in my tank also - i did a half dose, as recommended, however within 2-3 days, ALL 5 of my peppermints were upside down - dead. Sorry if this may have shocked you, but if a half dose can kill them, then a full dose will definatley kill them. Not sure if the med is the real cause, but 4 loaches, 4 corys and 5 peppermints (the scaleless fish in my tank) all DIED. However, my tetras seem ok. By the way, the medication that i used was called Wardley Ickaway - i was told by my LFS that this was the best - however not in my case! (having said that, though, my other "non-scaleless" fish seem to have made a recovery from their white spot) As for salt, i read up that one tablespoon per 20 litres is ok - i did this, no fish died (before i added the meds), however i am unsure whether it aided in getting rid of white spot. Upping the temp is good too. If you have a quarantine tank, take out the sensitive species and do a 30% dose, and full dose the main tank. White spot will spread very rapidly as previously mentioned. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foti Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hi Foti Do NOT use a full dose medication on your peppermints - they are scaless catfish and are very sensitive - doing so will probably kill them. I recently had an outbreak of whitespot in my tank also - i did a half dose, as recommended, however within 2-3 days, ALL 5 of my peppermints were upside down - dead. Sorry if this may have shocked you, but if a half dose can kill them, then a full dose will definatley kill them. Not sure if the med is the real cause, but 4 loaches, 4 corys and 5 peppermints (the scaleless fish in my tank) all DIED. However, my tetras seem ok. By the way, the medication that i used was called Wardley Ickaway - i was told by my LFS that this was the best - however not in my case! (having said that, though, my other "non-scaleless" fish seem to have made a recovery from their white spot) As for salt, i read up that one tablespoon per 20 litres is ok - i did this, no fish died (before i added the meds), however i am unsure whether it aided in getting rid of white spot. Upping the temp is good too. If you have a quarantine tank, take out the sensitive species and do a 30% dose, and full dose the main tank. White spot will spread very rapidly as previously mentioned. Hope this helps yes lots of help i will take peppermints out and do a low dose treatment maybe 15% over 2 or 3 times the length and a full dose on the rest in main tank ill remove the activated carbon from filter oh i also have a cuckoo cat ill seperate that as well ill up date on the out come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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