tootie Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 My pair of jules (ornatus) had some fry (now about 1-2cms) and probably soon need to be removed from the tank. It looks like the female is guarding eggs behind a rock as I've seen very little of her. There are only about 7fry (that I can see). I have read that this process has to be done carefully as it can result in the parents 'divorcing'. What type of methods have people used? Also do I wait to see the new freeswimming fry first before I remove the older fry? I would appreciate any advice that is given. Cheers, Tootie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkesg Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi, You don't need to remove the fry at all, as you probabaly know these are step breders and you can have mulitple batches in together. I have grown julie fry to be about 4-5cm in with the parents with 2 further bactches in with them. The older ones actually guard the new fry along with the parents. Is there a reason you have to move them, i.e. small tank? HTH Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outbackdean Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi Tootie Why do you want to remove the young ? the adult/parents will not harm them untill they are adults. the first lot of fry will help look after the next lot and so on and so on untill the tank is packed full of j.ornatus then the original parents wil stop breeding. at this stage the first fry will be comming of age and you will have to get them out.(best of luck without stripping the tank down) I have tried many traps ect with very limited success(very smart fish and hide of a night time) Princess have the same manner now I have a 6x2x2 full of princess and a 6x2x2 full of J.onatus I hope this helps Outbackdean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi, You don't need to remove the fry at all, as you probabaly know these are step breders and you can have mulitple batches in together. I have grown julie fry to be about 4-5cm in with the parents with 2 further bactches in with them. The older ones actually guard the new fry along with the parents. Is there a reason you have to move them, i.e. small tank? HTH Grant HI Grant, Thanks for this. The tank probably is too small. I have a breeding pair in a 60litre tank, currently with 6 wee ones and I think new ones soon. Is this too small to grow the fry up a bit before I trade them? Also I wasn't sure if the bigger ones would bully the new arrivals but obviously they don't. It sounds very exciting. When you do eventually remove them (if trading) how do you do it? Thanks, Tootie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi Tootie Why do you want to remove the young ? the adult/parents will not harm them untill they are adults. the first lot of fry will help look after the next lot and so on and so on untill the tank is packed full of j.ornatus then the original parents wil stop breeding. at this stage the first fry will be comming of age and you will have to get them out.(best of luck without stripping the tank down) I have tried many traps ect with very limited success(very smart fish and hide of a night time) Princess have the same manner now I have a 6x2x2 full of princess and a 6x2x2 full of J.onatus I hope this helps Outbackdean Hi Outbackdean, Thanks. I wasn't aware that the fry wouldn't bully the soon to be new arrivals. It sounds very cute. When the original parents eventually stop breeding, if you remove the fry do they start breeding again? When you say limited success when stripping your tank - do the parents end up divorced or what happens? Cheers, Tootie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outbackdean Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi tootie I have had more sucsess with the parents going back to bread if you return them and some of the last batch of fry to the tank. sometimes if the male gets a bit agro I place a couple of rainbows in with them in a new set up just as dither fish. I have tried many traps ect with very limited success(very smart fish and hide of a night time) What I ment was without stripping the tank down I could not catch more than one or two fry in traps or via a net as they seem to learn to quickly to aviod the traps and nets. A great fish , I have had them for about 18 years or so buying in new breeding lines now and then. the biggest problem I have is what to do with the excess of fish as I live in far west of nsw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma2938 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hey, catching the fry is a pain in the *%$ When I eventually decided to catch mine, I did it at water change time, I lowered the water level, shoo'd the fry to one end of the tank, stuck in my enormous net and then chased/pushed them into it. My net went pretty much from one side to the other of the tank, and I had to remove all the rocks from that end first. I had my pair in a 2x14x18 and the parents happily co-existed with 3-4 generations of fry. Once they got to be around 1inch I removed them, but left the rest in with the parents. I too have tried to use fish traps (botttle cut in half, with the top inverted) and was successful trying to catch Multies, but I cought the adults, I left them hoping others would swim in, but no! when I came back the adults had worked out how to escape, there was just one juvie in there. Fry, you try so hard to get your fish to breed, and when they finnaly do, you cant work out how to catch'em HAHA. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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