aszian Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 hi everyone im new to the forum and was looking for advice with gold saum. I was wondering if you are able to sex these fishes when they are about 4-5cm, because i just purchased a so called trio from my LFS and they said it was 2 females and a male, but when i got it home, they all look exactly the same as each other. If anyone could help me on this topic, it will b greatly appreciated. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petshopdude Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 not 100% sure, but i would think that they won't like the idea of a trio, they can get a bit nasty, and they might kill he odd one out, just keep an eye on them, as for sexing bit hard i have found, but the female should be a bit duller then the male Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurch82 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Look for a pointed top fin on the male and a duller colour and more rounded top fin for a female. As for a trio forget it unless you have a big tank for the other fish to escape from the pair. When Breeding the male is extremely aggresive towards the girl so if you have two girls i would keep the other in a seperate tank incase he kills the other. I know it doesnt sound good but that is what i do with my rivulatus ( he has deceased one girl so far yet not bred ) as well as most of my other americans. These type of fish are AGGRESIVE by nature so please dont forget that but at the same time they are very entertaining. Good Luck Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 hi thanks for the replies guys, but its still hard for me to sex each of the gold saums so i've managed to take some photos of the 3, please give me input cheers 6cm fish 5cm fish 4.5cm fish sorry abt the image of the 5cm fish, it was too fast for me to catch so i gave up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 I forgot to add that the 6cm fish seems to b bulging (i think due to getting heaps of the food - maybe a myth?) coz he/she got a wide stomach as seen on the picture, and she/he seems to be harrassing the 5cm fish a bit which makes the 5cm fish's fins go darker then usual. My uncle believes that the 6cm fish is a pregnant female, *shrugs* it'd b awesome if it was true. thanks again for anyone who helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 from what I can see with the shape of their dorsal/anal fins, they are either too young yet or perhaps girls. I'm not a GT expert though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 ohh it might make sense if they all female, never thought of that, mms yer thats y its made it so hard for me to sex them because people tell me to look for pointed fins but, they arent pointed at all more rounded *shrugs* thanks for ur opinion keep them coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If the biggest fish is only about 6cm then they are most likely too young, watch them over the coming months as they pass the 10cm mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 you're right ash, they are all females, the 6cm fish dropped her eggs this morning after a 30% water change last night, and the 4.5cm fish is starting to bulge up (possibility eggs) so therefore i rung my LFS, told him that they were all female and asked to swap one back for a male. Voila finally i can distinguish the males and females, i'll upload some photos of the female and her egg and the new male so to help future rivalatus owners =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Hi aszian I have gold saums to, I have 4 females and 1 male in a 5 foot tank .when they start breeding they don’t stop. Ill get some pics as soon as I can ,the males and females are easy to tell apart ,when I put some pics up you will see what I mean, hope you have a lot of room for babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 hey chameleon awesome, i know how to distinguish them though now i got 2 females and a male myself in a 4ft, but yer it'll b awesome to see your fish's. Do they actually breed when theres multiple females in the tank? cause mine seems to run after the smaller one (both female and male) but shes a tough lil bugger, so im thinking of keeping it as a trio since im going to be getting a 6ft'r just for the gold saum trio which hopefully if they breed when they are larger they take opposite sides of the tank, just wana know if the male can actually do this btw. =) i'll post my pics up too when i get my card reader back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hi aszian, just had a look at my tank tonight one female left side of the tank she has eggs and female right side of the tank babies just hatching and I only have the one male in that tank, it looks so funny the male goes from one side to the other keeping the females away from each other, the male looks great he’s at his best :thumbup:P.S. the females are the same size same age if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 25, 2007 Author Share Posted August 25, 2007 haha THAT IS SO AWESOMEE good work dude chameleon, is it possible for you to get some pictures? i can imagine ur males gona have spectacular colour during breeding time, its nice to find another gold saum breeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Ill get some batteries for my camera to day, and ill try to have some pics up by the end of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 26, 2007 Author Share Posted August 26, 2007 good news!! my smaller female and male has seemed to produce some eggs and i saw the ritual between the two where they both chased away the other female and did their thing haha looks like the other female is bulging up and wanting to breed too coz she is starting to wiggly in front of the male too. hahaha still surprised they are breeding at this size ..male 7cm, female 5cm, other female 7cm. hopefully i get my card reader back to show ppl the photos of the eggs too. haha looking forward to your picks chameleon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Around 8 days may be 10 you should have free swimming fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 Awesome news guys, my other female has also dropped her eggs when i dropped terracota pot into the tank, its so awesome on each end theres eggs, and the first batch of eggs is going along nicely cause i can see the fry developing inside but theres also 2 or 3 fungus eggs which i hope the female will get rid of soon im going to be getting a 6ft soon so tank space will no longer be a problem =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Aszian you will have to let me know how you put your pics up, I have some pic but I do not know how to put them on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 oh what you do is go to a site such as www.photobucket.com where you can register a free account, then just upload your pictures using that, once all your required pictures are uploaded to that site, at the bottom of each of the picture there is a codes, copy the IMG CODE into your reply message area (which is this part that im typing on) and it will show up. good luck =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 It took me a bit but i got it there are 5 pics all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 congrats on ur first image post your fishes look awesome!! hehe update on my first batch of eggs = wrigglers, ive seperated the mother with the eggs using a divider so the male cannot get to it, the mother has seemed to catch the fries in her mouth and moved them to a kinda hole area where she can keep her eyes on them next stop free swimming and the 2nd batch of eggs shouldnt be too far off hatching prob 3 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Good one left mine in with mum and dad.The dad is looking after them with mum and doing a good job,when they come out to the front of the tank ill get some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 always looking forward to your pictures chameleon , but yer funny thing it feels as though we are the only ones that are into this type of fish guess alot of people are missing out on enjoying such a nice fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi aszian took this pic todaymy gold saums I keep out side they get natural light I keep them in a pergola .Its 7pm so when photobucket is back up ill put some more pics up of my gold saums with there babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszian Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 WOW!!! awesome thats like at least 300 babies u got there nicely donee!! haha that is an awesome photo of the green terror and the babies keep them coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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