scott_to4 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 A FEW QUESTIONS.... The tank is an 8x2x2 containing 6 big clown loach, 10 frontosa, maybe a few more and prob about 10 e.yellow and probably more fish down the track I'd rather only do this once, do it properly, i dont want to find out later that my sump is too small and have to pay to upgrade it. this is my first ever tank with a mini reef filter. 1) ok im planning my sump setup for my new 8x2x2. the sump will be fed via two, 1 inch stand pipes which will exit through the bottom of the tank into 40mm pipe then to be dumped into the sump which will be in the middle of the tank. ive picture it only with bio balls and filter wool, is this enough or should i use more and varied media? would the sump pictured be sufficient? ive pictured it as 14 inches high as i have 20 inches to play with from top to bottom under the stand. I guess i could go to 16inches high max. 2) would a 600x400x400 sump be too small? 3) what will keep the water clearer, a sump as ive pictured with bio balls sponge and wool or an up and down style column sump with matrix, foam, sponges, wool etc 4) would one 300watt heater in the sump be enough THANKS in advance for your help and advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleV Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 mate i think the sump might be a bit small as i have a 3ft doing my 5x2x2, any one else think it might be to small cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleV Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 the set up looks fine, i have two 300 watt heats inside my tank where the water is pumped back in, its up to you where they go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willo Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Not that I'm an expert or anything, but my guess is that sump size will be fine, 1 x 300w if in the sump, should do the trick (I have two, but i think it's overkill - however, it's good redundancy). I have pretty much the same setup as the one you've discribed, and it seems to be coping pretty well. The fish seem happy anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Bioballs do not go under water. If submerged use different bio media. Sump size = normal water running level + runoff from main tank. Measure the lowest point of run out from your tank (inlet or outlet) then to the top of your tank (normal water level when tank is running). This is the amount of water that will flow from your tank to your sump when power is off. If this overflows your sump, sump is too small. This is how correct sump size is worked out. You don’t detail in your diagram where the water level will be when sump is in operation. Minimum it must cover pump. Make sure that evaporation doesn’t drop the water below the pump. In addition a sump is a great area to put heaters, heaters are best run with their tops out of water. Plan your sump so you have one chamber that will allow vertical heater placing with tops out of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog013 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Id get a 4ft sump wider than normal with a larger surface area, I can't wait to one day own a gigantus tank but Iam a poor b&&stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamwater Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 heaters are best run with their tops out of water Could I have this one explained as to why? Just curious, jagers are submersible, would they run better with the tops out of the water? and would have to be near a 2' high sump to have a 300W jager sitting with its top out of the water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I think they would be safer with the tops out, but I doubt it makes them more efficient. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 what Josh said, though "runs best" can also mean runs most reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricyellowz Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Wouldn't it also make life easier when needing to change the temp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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