yellow Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 i borrowed a book from the NSWCS last night about SA dwarf american cichlids and would just like to know what species are currently available in australia.i was just wondering if anyone can help me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamwater Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Well 2 definates are Mikrogeophagus ramirezi and Mikrogeophagus altispinosus, and quite a few of the Apistogramma's (though I am not sure which ones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Biotodoma cupido. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Cacatoides Borelie and Aggassizi are the main stayers you can normally find and are good starters. Panduro and Nijsenni are reasonably common and honglsoi. Wherer have you seen cupido Bruce and how much - bet around the hundred mark? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuong Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 As alot of them are on the import list, so you can really get your hands on alot of these dwarves. The only problem is how much you're willing to pay and to have a reliable importer who knows his dwarves. It's just unfortunate that the popularity of these little guys varies alot so their demand and supply varies on them alot too, especially the rarer apistos. Although most of the ones mentioned above are fairly common and you'll find them in some LFS. Not sure how regularly Th0mas visits these forums but he'd would be the one to help you answer any queries on specific species as I've heard he owns about all of the available apistos in Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th0mas Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Not sure how regularly Th0mas visits these forums but he'd would be the one to help you answer any queries on specific species as I've heard he owns about all of the available apistos in Australia Not all - but been through some of them. Adding to the above, the following species of South American dwarf came into the country over the last 12 months: apistogramma: agassizi (various forms) cf. agassizi "Tefe" cacatoides (various forms) nijsseni hongsloi hoignei elizabethae maulbruter baenschi iniridae macmasteri norberti viejita eremnophyge borelli gephyra trifasciata sp. "Rio Mamore" bitaeniata diplotaenia cf. eunotus "Orangeschwanz" eunotus sp. "Papagei" melgar uaupsei hyppolytae panduro juruensis gibbiceps dicrossus: filamentosa maculatus sp. "Rio Tapajos" apistogrammoides pucallpaensis taeniacara candidi Think that cover it (feel free to add what I've missed). So they are around, but most are only around for a short time. Hope this helps. Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonauv Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Aequidens curviceps Nannacara anomala and maybe N. taenia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Must admit I got a soft spot for the Nanacara - just watch anomala as there are a lot of ordinary ones about. Love to get some taenia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted July 10, 2007 Author Share Posted July 10, 2007 thanks for the help everyone.one more question though does anyone what the price of them varies by.say from $$$ to $$$.also is a.panduro commonly available.thats my favourite so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th0mas Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 thanks for the help everyone.one more question though does anyone what the price of them varies by.say from $$$ to $$$.also is a.panduro commonly available.thats my favourite so far. Retail $$$? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted July 10, 2007 Author Share Posted July 10, 2007 most likely privately thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th0mas Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 most likely privately thomas That would be difficult - as there aren't many actively working/breeding the SA dwarf. Due to my capacity limitation, I can keep around 6 species going at the same time (where possible - I keeps multiple pairs and isolate batches from different bloodline of the same species to reduce the chance of future in-breeding, hence tanks spaces are being taken up by grow-out). When they are ready, they will be near breeding size (definitely sexable) and normally tag them to be slightly higher than half of what I paid (for the parent). So it really depends on what you fancy, there might not any available in the private sector and you'll need to get them through commercial sources. A. panduro is quite commonly available from the LFS, you just need to visit them at the right time as they comes in batch every now and then. Thomas. PS: I don't keep panduro at the current time, but know a mate has a spare adult female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Should be able to find them in the shops. I have seen them typically between $10 and $15 in LFS Personally I would pay up to around $30 for a good quality Pandurini. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted July 11, 2007 Author Share Posted July 11, 2007 thanks guys sounds like their a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mani A Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 i haven't been able to find that many you guys must look everwhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 When you are into a particular type of fish you quickly learn where to look - and keep checking the others. What me obsessed. Never. Sorry - what was your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th0mas Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 i haven't been able to find that many you guys must look everwhere Most of what I've listed have landed in Sydney, and were available for short period with limited numbers. The places to look for dwarf SA cichlids is the Eastern suburbs. That's where the main players are in Sydney. Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th0mas Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Some proof of their present..... F0 baenschi with fry F0 baenschi family F1 baenschi with fry F0 macmasteri with egg juvenile F1 macmasteri F0 pucallpaensis male F0 pucallpaensis with fry juvenile F1 pucallpaensis cf. agassizi Tefe with egg cf. agassizi Tefe fry elizabethae fry elizabethae juvenile hongsloi hongsloi with fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mani A Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 i haven't been able to find that many you guys must look everwhere Most of what I've listed have landed in Sydney, and were available for short period with limited numbers. The places to look for dwarf SA cichlids is the Eastern suburbs. That's where the main players are in Sydney. Thomas. thanks mate i've allways loved the dwarfs but can't find any good breeds i'll try your suggestion (if you really like dwarfs take a look at my appisto in my album) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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