bignose Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hi All, Got this fenestratum not long ago and it started developing some infection to it's body. I quickly separated it to it's own tank and treated it with some pimafix and salt for the last 7 days with absolutely no improvement. I'm stumped to what it could be! Is it a type of fungus? The fish seem healthy in the way it swims and eats real well, hasn't lost his appitite at all. Am I giving it the wrong medication? Anyone seen the same symptoms and know what to treat it with? Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I had a blackbelt with funny "growths" like that on it, nothing I tried (which wasn't very much more than you have) had an effect & the fish seemed happy enough & grew to 20-cm before a RD decided his time was up. I was guessing some sort of tumors? No other fish got it & this fish's lumps didn't grow out of proportion with the rest of him for the year or so I had him YMMV & all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 It could be lymphocystis It looks a bit like some of the photos of infected fish I have seen on the net. It would also tally with what Ash described. I keep Msobo which are known carriers of lymphocystis so I've done a far bit of research into it. These quotes come directly from a very reliable source: Unfortunately as it is a virus, affected fish can't be cured or treated, managing revolves around getting "clean" stock, so what you do is seperate off any fish that show signs of it and keep them together in a seperate tank. Raise any fry seperately from adults. The other thing to do is minimise stress in the tank - good water quality, hiding places for hassled fish etc. as stress causes infected fish to release large quantities of virus into the water, making the transmission rate go up. This is why lymphocystis is such a problem in Asia ..............they badly crowd fish that are being exported and regularly have outbreaks of this disease where a large proportion of fish become infected, because they were badly stressed Infected fish will live for a long time with the lesions and have a normal life, the lesions can look unsightly though. If the lesion is on the mouth it will eventually get too large for the fish to eat and then the fish would need to be euthanased. Basically lymphocystis has a low transmission - usually will only be transmitted to 10% of a population in a tank. It can be higher with cichlids because they tend to fight and having open wounds/nicks in the slime coat allows the virus in. I also read (it was on the net so it must be true ) that often strains of lymphocystis are host specific and are not readily transmitted from the host species to another species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Wow, I'm lucky my RD didn't get it when he killed the blackbelt then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E4G13M4N Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I havnt known it to transmit to other fish as its more like a cancerous growth. Some fish can get black areas develope when the tumour get larger as the growth can block the pigment glands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignose Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 Thanks for that guys , not really the response I was hoping for. Unfortunately the fish has some of the growth on it's mouth as well. Will look into it further. If there is anyone else that may know more about it, your knowledge would be appreciated. Cheers Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricyellowz Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Hopefully he gets better soon! I would also like to know what the disease is aswell if its not lymphocystis. Ash how big was your RD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 tha blackbelt with these growths was 20cm, the RD that killed it 25cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wombat Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Definately looks like a case of lymphocystis virus (well done Skippy). Sorry (cant be cured) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 It also looks like the pink nodule type ulcers that you see on some texas when the temp is too high. Speaking to Norm at Riverside he reckons they usually show when the water temp exceeds 28C for long periods and also said he's seen it happen in blackbelts too. Apparently it disappears over a period of time when the temp is lowered which he suugested should be 24C for texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 that looks like fish TB to me...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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