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Lee Miller

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Hi all,

I’m thinking of buying a Canon EOS 350D digital camera. I already have a Canon 30V SLR film camera with a Tamron AF28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD zoom (digital compatible). I want to use the Tamron zoom on the new camera.

I’ve read that the 350D/Tamron combination delivers a (35mm equivalent) focal length from 43mm to 465mm. This is a vast improvement on telephoto but seems to limit me on landscape/wide angle shots. Although I really prefer to use only one lens I’m considering a lens with a shorter focal length for those ‘must have’ landscape shots.

Can anybody suggest a lens that would suit?

Also, any suggestions on whether to buy the body only, or is there a package that would suit my needs?

Any helpful suggestions will be much appreciated.

Cheers,

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Personally id say just buy the 350d twin lens kit a or b there are some great deals on the kit at the moment and will work out cheaper than buying the lenses seperately

the kits both come with an 18-55 and then kit b has a 55-200 or kit a has a 75-300

I guess it depends on what you will use it for

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I'd suggest a 19-35 mm lens with as big an apature (as you can justify/afford) and maybe a prime 50 mm lens for portraits etc.

personally i find if you are going to use a digital slr for point and shoot photography the 18-55 lens is the most handy to have connected

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I'd just go with the 350D kit with 18-55 & 75-300mm zoom. It's not much more than the 350D by itself.

And if you go to a specialist camera store to get the kit they are norn\mally very generous with the extras if you ask ie - memory cards filters etc.

One thing that annoyed me about my 350d was my old filters from my eos dont fit the newer lenses

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Hi Lee,

A word of warning....buying a digital slr and lens is like buying fish....once your addicted, u can't just stick with only one!!!! shock.gif

A good all purpose Canon lens would be:

Canon EF 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

OR if u want a great lens and don't mind the price:

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM.

Here is a shop situated in St Leonards that i buy my lens from:

Discound Digital Photographics

Let us know what u decide to get.

hth

Dave

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Hi all,

Thanks for all the replies and the solid advice.

I've had a good look around and I'm seriously considering going the whole nine yards and getting the Canon EOS 5D - I like the idea of full-frame digital and I can use my current lens!

Discount Digital Photography (thanks for the tip Dave) have the EOS 5D body for $4059 and Canon are doing a $500 cashback deal at the moment (I've got to check all the fineprint).

Cheers,

Lee.

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Hi Lee,

I guess you have to ask yourself what kind of photography you want to do, or will do the most?

A couple of pitfalls of the full-frame d-slr... the smaller 1.6 crop of earlier sensors was a benefit in some cases as it allows us to use wider lenses without a lot of vignetting. When you go to full frame again you can introduce some vignetting. In addition to this, the 1.6 crop doesn't use the outer curvature of the lens in lenses and so avoids some of the softness that can occur at the edges, especially in wider and consumer lenses. The downfall of course is that your image sensor, and therefore final image size, is smaller on a 1.6 crop or 1.3 crop. My dream camera is a Canon 1Ds *drools*. If you are going to go a full frame dSLR I'd pay a visit to www.fredmiranda.com/reviews and search for lenses more suited to full frame cameras. People bag the 18-55mm EFS kit lens but I am quite happy with it (it is also kid proof and unbreakable (yes I've tried :) )). It takes more effort to make it work for you but so long as you don't try and make it do what it isn't meant to then it's not that bad. It's not meant to take pics for big poster sized prints - 6x4' and 8x10' prints are fine (I entered 8 images in last years Norfolk Island Royal Show and took out 2 x first places, 1 x 2nd and 2 x 3rd places out of 2000 entries in various categories with this lens and my 90-300mm lens with prints to A4 in size). I have used mine on everything from reverse mount macro photography to 6 hour star trail exposures with a fair bit of success. I chose the Tamron SP AF24-135MM F/3.5-5.6 AD Aspherical (IF) Macro (http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showpro...t=43&page=1) as a good all-round lens, for those cases where you can only take one lens for my hacked canon 300D dSLR because it has 'L' glass quality without the 'L' glass price. This will be on the camera most of the time I think. I am going to combine that with a Kenko 2x converter to boost it up (with the 1.6 crop factor), to 432mm at the long end. That will be pretty good for me when I go birding. Check out Fred Miranda's reviews - they are excellent although they tend to be a little biased towards the 'L' glass side... which is fine if you are prepared to pay $1000+ for your lenses (I am but have champange taste on a beer budget lol). Personally I would not touch the 75-300mm canon lens. The 90-300mm lens that Buddi is selling is far better. My 90-300mm has served me well though looking back I think I'd get the 100-300mm lens now (with the metal mount which you can pick up on Ebay now for about $150 - http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showpro...=27&page=2), in fact I'm watching one on Ebay now that I am thinking of getting to swap my 90-300mm Ef lens for - seems to have better image quality and build quality than the 90-300mm that I've got (besides that I'd rather save for the 100-400mm L lens). I sold my 55-200mm EF USM off because it was crap. Eventually I'm going to go all primes (L, IS, and non-L) but until I win Lotto the zooms will have to do. I love my little 50mm f1.8 prime. Get this lens if you go Canon no matter what!!! Cheap as chips and excellent picture quality. Mine cost me about $80 new so I figure I am going to play hard with this lense and if I break it, I don't care, I'll buy another. You can get MK1 and MK11 50mm f1.8 lenses. The MK1 is identical to the MK11 except the MK1 has a metal mount, a distance scale and sells for 2-3 times as much. Not really worth it IMO when a MK11 sells for under $100 new on Ebay (if you look hard enough). I would avoid the really big zooms (like the 24-300mm lenses) because IMO they are trying to do too much and it is a case of 'jack-of-all trades, master of none' unless you go with some of the more $$$ lenses of this size in the 'L' series like the Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM. If you want to combine your photography with aquarium photography then I would be seriously thinking of the 100mm EF macro which is often referred to as the portrait macro, such is its versatility. I am hoping the 24-135mm Tamron of mine (which is yet to arrive here) can be used in similar circumstances.

It is often said save your money on the body and put it into your glass. I don't totally agree with this after looking at sensor comparisons and reviews (and looking at how noisy my 300D's senosr makes 800+ISO pics) but it is still fair advice. I would also seriously recommend asking your camera shop if you can test (in the shop) a few b4 making your choice. I would be looking for things like what ISO it supports (I would really love one that goes down to 50 ISO like my favourite film, Fuji Velvia), what it's max. shutterspeed is (mine is 3200th sec), how noisy images are at 400ISO and 800ISO, weight, build, and pther special features like 2nd curtain flash synch, mirror lock-up, AI focusing, etc.

On bodies, I would be looking at the 30D now in the canon camp. Can't recommend anything in nikon, or minolta, because I've never used them (cept for my Nikon f70d film camera). Nikkor lenses are excellent and seem to be cheaper than the canon lenses. Minolta dSLR are said to be beautiful cameras too and I hear Sony have just released a new dSLR.

What MoliroMan said about it being like fish keeping is very true. Soon you'll be looking at other things and saying "hmmmm - that would complement my .... very nicely...."

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JLL...i have bought lens from the guy in DDP....i can say without any doubt that this guy is 100% trustworthy. My advice is for u to call him up and ask him first if he has the camera or lens u are after.....sometimes he won't have them in stock but he will be able to get them for u shortly.

There are no hidden charges like the internet companies or ebay companies based in other countries. His equipment are 100% genuine and comes with international guarantee. He gets most of his gear from the US.

If u do go ahead and buy from him, let us know how it went.

Dave

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This place is a good resource for anyone contemplating a camera purchse. You can ask questions to people who have the exact same gear that you're contemplating buying. Be aware that everyone is naturally biased towards their brand/model, but it gives you a good feel for the product.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/

You have Canon gear already, so Simon's given you good advice. Have a look at Canon specific forums. However, go and handle a camera for yourself - they all have different ergonomics, and you'll need to be comfortable with it.

Cheers, Frank

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I have bought from DDP and service is OK, the guy is a bit weird/rude but other then that the prices are good. Go for it!!

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JLL...i have bought lens from the guy in DDP....i can say without any doubt that this guy is 100% trustworthy. My advice is for u to call him up and ask him first if he has the camera or lens u are after.....sometimes he won't have them in stock but he will be able to get them for u shortly.

There are no hidden charges like the internet companies or ebay companies based in other countries. His equipment are 100% genuine and comes with international guarantee. He gets most of his gear from the US.

If u do go ahead and buy from him, let us know how it went.

Dave

Thanks for that Dave. I did go around there and he seemed a decent bloke. I bought a 350D kit from him, now for the learning curve.

Cheers

John

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U have to understand that this guy from DDP actually operates in a room at his own residence so he has every right to be cautious when a stranger comes up to look at the goods. Once he sees u r genuinely there to get a bargain, he will slowly warm to u.

John...which lens kit did u end up getting?

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U have to understand that this guy from DDP actually operates in a room at his own residence so he has every right to be cautious when a stranger comes up to look at the goods. Once he sees u r genuinely there to get a bargain, he will slowly warm to u.

John...which lens kit did u end up getting?

Agreed, I too would be cautious when operating from home. I was pretty much in and out but he was nice and the little kid just laughed at me and the other half the whole time.

I ended up just getting the 18-55 as the missus is taking this to the US tomorrow and I will look into other lenses later on. My sister has a lot more SLR experience and is going to help us out with lense choices and learning how to use it.

Just tested it yesterday to make sure it worked and even the muck around photos turned out not too woefully (i think). I am sure I will be asking for plenty of advice in the future.

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Discount Digital Photography (thanks for the tip Dave) have the EOS 5D body for $4059 and Canon are doing a $500 cashback deal at the moment (I've got to check all the fineprint).

Cheers,Lee.

Hi Lee,

Nothing hidden in the fine print. We went with the cash back deal, filled out the form same day and the money was in our account two weeks later :thumbup::thumbup:

Cheers

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Yes he operates out of his own residence but it doesnt give him the right to treat customers badly.

I went there with a friend and he already had a customer there. We had to wait in his hall way for about 10-15 mins twidling our thumbs while he delt with this other customer.

We were very genuine customers and spent about 5k between us in cash right there on the spot.

I will purchase there again, but will most likely get the goods couried to my door to save the trouble.

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I'm sorry but from that account, waiting 15 minutes for him, he hardly seemed to be treating you badly. From what I can understand he's a one person business, so service is always going to be limited and that should be expected.

Note: I haven't bought anything from him or even heard of him before this thread.

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It was a really akward situation to be in.

Maybe he should setup a waiting room or have allocated time slots for clients.

From my experience it doesnt want to make me go back there.

Rather have the goods delivered.

But the guy is friendly enough once you have his attention.. $$$$$$...

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Lepperfish....did u actually phone him and arrange a time to pickup and buy first. When i first bought from him he seemed very protective of his family which is quite understandable. I think he will be nicer the next time u deal with him.

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Yep I phoned and explained what me and my friend wanted and a good time to go in there as we had to drive about 45min to get there. His family wasnt even there when we went there..

Courier will save hassles from now on..

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