Camo Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hey I am looking at upgrading soon and the best around that people seem to have is either the nikon D70 slr or the Canon EOS 350D So my question is what is the better one out of them. The money does not matter i just want a straight answer to which one is better. Is the canon 350d with a twin lens kit (75mm-300m) alright for $1699? Cheers Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 IMO both are good cameras. camera is just a tool for taking pictures. the user also plays important role in producing great outcomes. unfortunately there is no straight answer. people who have D70 will say D70. someone who owns 350D will recommend 350D. decision is yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepperfish Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 IMO get the canon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fman Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Cameron Both are very good cameras. Have a look at the reviews: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs.asp http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html Which is best? All depends on personal preference. There is no correct answer. It's personal preference. You've got to handle the camera, see if it "feels" right. (same as the Holden vs Ford debate) Be aware that a lot of the photos that you see taken with these cameras have been taken with lenses that are "non-standard". The bundled lenses are good, but you pay a hell of a lot more for the faster lenses, which will help take better photos at lower light levels. These lenses often cost more than the cost of the whole kit you've described. Maybe some of the users of these cameras can help us out here. What lenses do you use? As far as cost goes, just shop around. I like to buy from camera dealers, because they are a lot more helpful, and can save you money by giving you good advice. They'll often match your best price as well. HTH Cheers, Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 That's not a bad price for the 350D with extra lens. I've found that the macro setting on the 350D is not as good as I thought it would be, and I don't know anything about the D70. You should find out which has better macro especially if you're taking pictures of fish. Of course you could also buy a macro lens Go Canon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepperfish Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 As Fman says. Fast glass isnt cheap. I just bought a 24-70mm f/2.8L canon lens and it cost me a touch under 2k.. More then a canon 20D body! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I will vote the Nikon. Personal preference though. Go into a camera store and handle both, see which you like the feel of. Nobody will hold it against you whichever you choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[RK] Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I didnt know the shutter speeds and apatures were dependant on the lens itself. I thought that was a property of the camera. wow. learn something new everyday :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 something worth taking into account is how many of these you will be taking as opposed to how many of these i take alot of fish pictures obviously but its worth considering how useful it will be to you outside of the fish world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Just fyi my brother just bought the canon 350D. For $1500 at JB HIFI he bought the camera, 2 lens, a 1 gig card, and a carry bag. Much better deal than the above mentioned. Its a great camera, but then its the first dSLR Ive used. Happy shopping. Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViS Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I've used both and prefer the canon. The Nikon is a bit bigger but feels way bigger. The canon has a better sensor too. The main thing to think about is what sort of photography you plan on doing. I weighed up all my options and ended up getting a Panasonic FZ30 and a laptop computer for the same price as a DSLR. If you want to do macro, add another $600+ for a macro lens if you buy a DSLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgoid Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 i went through the same thing as you a couple of months ago. in the end i went for the canon because of the avilibilty of second hand lenses. there is just alot more good canon glass around out their then their is of nikon. i managed to pick up a 5 month old copy of a 300mm f4 for a mere $1400 . biggest purchase since the body itself but considering its a 2k lens new and the way they hold resale extremely way i consider it more of an ivestment. now that u have singled out a few bodies u should start to look at accessories and see which works out cheaper. and if u still cant decide go to a camera shop a have a fell for yourself and see which u like best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hey Well my photofraphy will be alot of fish photos and birds mainly so what is the best for this type of camera work? Cheers Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViS Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Either will do the job. Seeing as you'll be shooting birds, you are probably better off with the canon's 8.0MP sensor and the 300mm lens, so you can zoom in and then crop down the pictures if required without too much loss of quality. The 6.1MP Nikon probably won't crop down as well. Go to a shop, and one will feel much better to hold and shoot with than the other. Pick that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgoid Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 300mm will be way to short for birding and cropping will loose way to much quality. i've heard of guys who use the sigma 400-800 with 2x and still want more reach :D. unless you are going to be within a couple of metres then u better get saving for a 400mm + and a 1.4x TC. better add that to your budget as well haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I was in Camera House today and saw the 350D with the extra 300mm lens and a backpack for $1599! If it's that price here in Tassie, It must be $100-$200 cheaper on the mainland somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Hey Yeah andy i think i will go with the canon. Burgoid i am no steve parish yet and will not be shooting birds from 200m away. Just some king parrots at about 10m or so. The nikon has 1/8000 shutter and the canon has 1/4000. Should this effect it to much. They both have pro and cons about them. The deal i can get for the canon and a 75mm-300m lens is cheap i think. $1699. So i might be better goin with that. I will have a read of the reviews tonight and then go into a shop and feel them both. Not to many shops carry them on the floor but. Cheers Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Hey After having a little read then i think the nikon is all over the canon but i just like the canon i think. Cheers Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 You really need to handle both camera's. The Canon is a great camera. I prefer the Nikon personally but I would never try to convince someone who liked the Canon to not buy it. You will be stoked which ever way you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViS Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 The nikon has 1/8000 shutter and the canon has 1/4000. I think both are settings you'd never use. If you were sitting underneath a metal halide light or taking a stroll on the surface of the sun, you might make use of them, but I can't think of a situation where you'd use it effectively in any normal situation. Id be surprised if you ever used up to 1/2000. I'm sure pro photographers would know when and where to use such fast shutter speeds but I don't, and I doubt you will either At a guess, portrait photographers would use it for blurring out background almost completely, while using a very large aperture. I wonder if there's much difference between 1/2000, 1/4000 and 1/8000? I'd like to see someone with a nikon and a tripod do a test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Hey Also another thing these cameras do they have normal zoom in and zoom out like 10x optical zoom or is that what the lenses are for? Because they say nothing about the zoom and i cant see it. Does anyone know of a place up newcastle that would have them both on the shelf so i can feel them both. I guess i am worried after matty said that the macro is not as good as he thought. Then again i see shots like enigma and squidfish and they have the 350D. Cheers' Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Zoom is totally controlled by the lens'. If your totally new to SLR, definately find a few to have a play with first. You might find something like a power compact is more your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fman Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Cameron Canon and other manufacturers make special macro lenses (for DSLR's) which cost big bucks (more than the camera itself). Some of the really top class photos are taken using these lenses. You've gotta be really serious and financial. Yes the images are better, but are they worth the extra money? IMO the Panasonic does a great job for a fraction of the price. Only you can decide whether you need this equipment. Also factor in that having the gear is only part of the equation. Don't expect to take the sort of photos that Squidfish and Enigma display without a lot of hard work and practice (I wish they didn't make it look so easy! ) Cheers, Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hey I dont think i could get like enigma and squidfish but i am willing to practise and get some good shots goin. I went into camera house and felt both of them and andy you are right the nikon seems huge in your hands and the canon fits just right. The people also said that the canon is the better way to go and they would not say this if it was not true because the nikon was $400 dearer. I am not goin to buy one of those macro lenses for $2000. I just will get the camera and the 18-55m and the 75mm-300mm lenses. I like taking photos anyway so i think it will be a good investment. I am serious and financial frank. lol. The man also said that they are pretty much the same when it comes to macro shots. Can someone tell me if squidfish and enigma use a macro lens for there shots of fish. Cheers all Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foai Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I agree with Ducksta - see how they feel in your hand. I did a lot of research on Nikon D50 vs Canon 350D and couldn't pick them apart on reviews but when I went inot the shop and put them in my hand the Nikon was a run-away winner. It felt really comfortable and light. The Canon seemed bulky and hard to handle so I went with the Nikon. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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