CThompson Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 G’day, Just wondering others who have used both this product and Eheim’s Efisubsrat, how the two compare? I imagine both are pretty much the same. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6C1 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I use Eheims sintered glass in both my canisters and internal filters and I love it. I dont have any problems at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltcraig Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Hi Craig I use efi Sub Pro in most of my applications and think its fantastic Matrix is another product prople rave about and is good Havent used the aquasonic stuff cant say if its good or bad Regards Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.d.m Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 im currently using the aquasonic sintered glass in an eheim and the genuine stuff in another and theres no noticable differences between the two, id imagine the eheim stuff would possibly be better in an overstocked tank due to its larger surface area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 im currently using the aquasonic sintered glass in an eheim and the genuine stuff in another and theres no noticable differences between the two, id imagine the eheim stuff would possibly be better in an overstocked tank due to its larger surface area ← Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkesg Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I have used the sinitered glass, didn't like it. It tends to break down over time, and quite rapidally. When using in a canister there is there then the possiblity of small break-away peices getting caught in the impellor. Now I only use the Matrix and is much better, also when you compare the surface area to volume ratio between the two it is a huge difference. When worth paying more for the Matrix. You can pick up 20L for $275. Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeyBoyR Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Eheim Substrat Pro all the way! From memory it has 450m2 of surface area per litre whereas Matrix has about 150-200. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayden's dad Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 From experience, I just steer clear of anything beginning with the term "Aquasonic". From experience, I will always have a look at anything beginning with the term "Eheim". Troy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 From experience, I just steer clear of anything beginning with the term "Aquasonic". From experience, I will always have a look at anything beginning with the term "Eheim". Troy. ← While I would agree that Eheim = good, at the same time it doesn’t mean Aquasonic is not it’s equal, or close enough to be of no difference. Aquasonic being an Australian company makes points with me, and they make a lot of good gear. Eheim’s Efisubsrat breaks up over time, little by little the small grains of sintered glass come away, and you are left with less biological media. R.d.m has I think answered my question in that there is no noticeable difference between the two. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danpri Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Matrix is great, so is the Eheim subtrat pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.d.m Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 craigs right,aquasonic do make good stuff,its just cheaper because its made here,i dont have a problem with any of their products,the rift lake conditioner is great value,also any filter media will break up (possibly with the exception of bioballs!)over a period of time thats why the good volks at eheim tell us to replace it at regular intervals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 So all the posts & only two people have actually used the Aquasonic gear that the question was relating to? I'm sure Craig already knows how good Eheim stuff is & is only after a comparison, not more Eheim testamonials. my 2c Grant: Can you define breaks down rapidly? A month, a year, 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayden's dad Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 While I would agree that Eheim = good, at the same time it doesn’t mean Aquasonic is not it’s equal, or close enough to be of no difference. Aquasonic being an Australian company makes points with me, and they make a lot of good gear. Eheim’s Efisubsrat breaks up over time, little by little the small grains of sintered glass come away, and you are left with less biological media. R.d.m has I think answered my question in that there is no noticeable difference between the two. Craig ← I guess it all comes down to experience. How often is it recommended to change out Effisubstrat? Troy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus13 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Eheim Substrat Pro all the way! From memory it has 450m2 of surface area per litre whereas Matrix has about 150-200. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong? ← I have tried the AquaSonic media and wasnt that impressed. If you want the most bang for your buck get hold of some JBL Micromec, it has the most surface area of any commercially available aquarium filter media product worldwide. JBL Micromec give you 1500m2l surface area (equivalent of 3 and a bit litres of Eheim substrat pro II) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThompson Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Thanks Ash, you’re right. It was still nice that people tried to help, even if they didn't read the question . Efisubstate is advertised as being in need of replacing at regular intervals, don’t remember the duration but to give you an idea it would be something like every 6-12 months. I believe this is totally fictitious and is designed to create a greater market for their product (i.e. you will go out and buy more). How long will it last? I had it in a sump situation where it was taken out ever six months or so (along with the Matrix) and cleaned (agitated in aquarium water), then put back. Due to this it received more wear and tear and I would say over …..50% was gone in around four years. Efisubstate put in a media bag inside canister filters haven’t been replaced as yet, though I’m sure there will be less in there, and this comments makes me think I should open it up and put in some extra media as my overall surface area must have declined over the last few years though my fish number will not have. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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